I play bad as usual

[Vehn]

30/60. 2 mediocre players limp in and I raise in MP with red queens. Mediocre button calls. Very good player makes it 3 bets in the big blind. Limpers call, I make it 4 bets (5 bet cap), and everyone calls.

Flop is 8 5 4 rainbow. Its checked to me, I bet, button folds, BB checkraises, one limper coldcalls, I 3-bet, BB 4-bets, limper calls, I cap it all call.

Turn is a ten. Checked to me I bet, BB checkraises, limper coldcalls again, I call.

River is a king. BB checks, limper checks.

[potato]

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Very good player makes it 3 bets in the big blind.

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Flop is 8 5 4 rainbow. BB checkraises,

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Turn is a ten. Checked to me I bet, BB checkraises

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River is a king.

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Looks like it's time to fold out of turn.

[Rushmore]

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Looks like it's time to fold out of turn.

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Folding a pair of queens against a hand that has at least some reasonable chance of being a pair of jacks is not the greatest play.

Especially when there isn't a bet to you.

Granted, you're probably beat, but hey--there's a bunch of money in the pot. Go ahead and call the no-bet. Check.

[Saborion]

Because the BB must have kings or aces do check-raise both the flop and turn after 3-betting pre-flop, but not capping?

[potato]

I can't parse this sentence.

Anyway, it was a joke. But I am having an extremely hard time coming up with a hand that Vehn beats here.

[exist]

what? did you forget to value bet the river?


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[Saborion]

My bad. I read something like "I think it's time to fold on the turn."

[elysium]

hi vehn

check it down. i think you should check down the turn actually vehn. the risk of the check-raise is too high. it looks like AA or KK, and yes, he will come out betting on the river. but the MP won't likely raise, so you can easily call the river. i'm not crazy about how you played this one vehn.

[DiceyPlay]

Looks to me like BB flopped a set. The king scared him into check-calling the river. Limper has 2-pair or TPTK (A8s maybe). I would check it down. With all that action on pf and on the flop it doesn't look like that anyone is on a draw. I think they've made their hands and their not going to fold - they're fearing you have KK. But my lines of reasoning usually result in a re-buy [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[turnipmonster]

I'm going to go with TT or AA for the BB.

--turnipmonster