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Old 07-22-2004, 01:01 PM
JAque JAque is offline
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Default Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

As most of you remember, in one of the books from David Sklansky, he tells stories where the casinos made mistakes in odds or offered special deals that cost them a lot of money due to savvy gamblers as Dave.

Other than casino whoring, has anyone have a story about online sites where there was an obvious software error that cost the site money and required and immediate fix? I am not talking about abusing signup bonuses unless there was a software error of some kind.

I haven’t encounter any but I do not play in many different sites. It seems that any time there is a glitch or error in the software , it cost the player money but not the sites. However, it is hard to believe that they haven’t made mistakes to favor the player on a few occasions.

JAque
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Old 07-22-2004, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

One casino site I used to play on had an absolutely horrible Pai Gow programming. I think the site was Interbet.

The house basically had no idea how it was setting its hands. A copy hand was considered a "tie" and was a push not a loss for the player. The hand setting was atrocious besides the actual rules errors. If there were 2 pair and a non ace, the 2 pair would be kept together and the 2 card hand would be 9-6. Basically with a halfway decent understanding of the game the odds were easily in the players favor. I remember paying for an entire semester at college about 2 years ago, just abusing their flawed programming of Pai Gow Poker.
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Old 07-22-2004, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

I was lucky enough to find 2 glitches one of them still works.
At one site there was stricly holdem games no omaha or stud and no tourneys, when they introduced omaha hilo if the pot was split 3 ways, 2 guys with low 1 with high or 2 with high 1 with low it was split 50/50/50. The extra money coming from the house it only lasted about a week but surprisingly few people noticed.
The other glitch still works , i was downloading 6 or 7 songs on kazaa and was starting to lag out while playing poker. I left my table and registered for a 20$ multi tourney and a 30$ sitngo, the money was never taken from my account and i didnt see my name on the list. I unregistered from the sitngo and 30$ was credited to my account.Same thing happened to me a few months later and again last weeek.
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:44 PM
Baulucky Baulucky is offline
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

Although not software, but procedural errors, are common in some Caribbean boat cruises. The BJ dealers consistently flash the bottom card before offering a cut. With some practice one can learn to make very exact cuts to place the flashed card at an exact distance from the top (about 25 is ok). When the card happens to be an A or T, this gives a gargantuan advantage to a team of 2 or 3 playing at the table. The strategy can't be related to counting cards or shuffle tracking, but they catch on after a while.

A crash course in basic card magic tricks is reccomended.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

Most sites don't allow a dead button, so if the guy two to your right leaves at the right time, you end up playing an orbit by posting only a small blind.
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Old 07-22-2004, 03:42 PM
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Unrelated to gambling...

Back in the day when those "pay to surf" programs were popular there was one site (I think it was called beenz I don't remember it's been so long) that allowed you to play video games to try and win extra points. Ideally what the site was trying to do was to have members spend their points on the game rather than cashing them in (you had to spend a small number of points to play the game and only if you set a certain high score did you win any points back).

The game that had the glitch was a game very similar to the old atari game asteroids (I am an asteroids god). Naturally this was rigged in such a way that to get a score high enough to qualify for points you had to play at a very high level of difficulty (lots of fast moving asteroids, alien ships, etc). What they failed to realize is that the speed of the game (and therefore the difficulty) was determined by the processing speed of the computer you were playing...log onto their website with an older computer and presto, you have an instant cash machine (you just had to sit and play asteroids for hours upon hours, so instant is relative I guess).

I ended up taking them for a couple grand before they changed the payout structure (instead of having to hit a certain number you had to place on a leaderboard that was refreshed daily so after I set all the high scores it became progressively harder and harder to make any money). After that it was no longer cost effective (I went from making $20-25 an hour to making about $5), but it was a lot of fun while it lasted. When I was a kid I always dreamed of playing video games for a living and for about a month or so in college I got to live my dream. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 07-22-2004, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

I've cheated many MMORPGs and have cashed in over $30,000 from it. Almost every MMORPG has some sort of exploit in it, I can't see how this casino software is any more cheat proof - especially since it's all windows based.

However I think cheating a casino would be much more "punishable" in one way or another than cheating an online game.
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Old 07-22-2004, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

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Other than casino whoring, has anyone have a story about online sites where there was an obvious software error that cost the site money and required and immediate fix? I am not talking about abusing signup bonuses unless there was a software error of some kind.

I haven’t encounter any but I do not play in many different sites. It seems that any time there is a glitch or error in the software , it cost the player money but not the sites. However, it is hard to believe that they haven’t made mistakes to favor the player on a few occasions.

JAque


[/ QUOTE ]

What kind of retarded question is this?
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Old 07-22-2004, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Software Errors that resulted in extra ++EV situations at sites

It's not retarded. He means things like this:


That my real party client.

That menu is an actual menu inside partypoker.exe, I just moved it from it's stand alone spot onto the main client window. None of the options do anything though. However it wouldn't suprise me if there was a way to hack the client to get them to work. Hopefully party is smart enough to do an administrative check on the server before running any of those menu commands.

But as far as reverse engineering goes, I know squat - I'm just a web programmer.
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Old 07-22-2004, 04:28 PM
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MMMMM!!!
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