hand against a tight raiser

kgrad5 · #1 07-22-2004, 12:57 PM

MP2 is a tight raiser, so i right away put him on a pp or AKs

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero ...

DINGDINGDING, my spidey sense is tingling, im very sure he has aces, is there any way i should fold here? would this be a good fold or would it go against everything ed miller says?

DeathDonkey · #2 07-22-2004, 01:08 PM

The only hand he would 3 bet with preflop that your ahead of is AKs of clubs in this spot. How confident in your read are you though? No way he plays TT or AJs this way? If that's true, you can fold. But at Party 0.50/1 I probably call down. I think JJ is more likely than AA btw.

-DeathDonkey

kgrad5 · #3 07-22-2004, 01:13 PM

he could have AKc, kk, jj perhaps qq too? all of those hands are bad for me with AKc being the best, at these limits a turn raise usually means strength right? so even if im not 100% sure on my read (havent been at the table long) the turn raise shows a great deal of strength.. would it be a travesty to fold? when i can see a showdown for at most 2 more BB? i dont think the pot is even big enough to draw to my 2 outs..

Blindfolk · #4 07-22-2004, 01:11 PM

He has jacks. That's why he called on the flop.

kgrad5 · #5 07-22-2004, 01:13 PM

he 3 bet, i capped

Blindfolk · #6 07-22-2004, 01:31 PM

Yeah, and he checked because if he had Jacks, he flopped a full house. I would be surprised if he showed aces since you would expect him to bet out on the flop with aces.

kgrad5 · #7 07-22-2004, 01:38 PM

oh whoops i thought you said preflop, disreguard heh, but his call did seem strange but he might not want to scare me off with a raise

Aviston · #8 07-22-2004, 01:15 PM

As a tight player, his 3 bet preflop screams JJ - AA, or AK. As a 'tight raiser', his turn raise doesn't exactly imply AKs (I don't really see a tight raiser raising the turn against one player with a flush draw). This means he most likely has JJ, KK, or AA which puts you far behind. I think folding is advisable in this situation (against another player, I'd have to call and check-call the river).

tech · #9 07-22-2004, 01:38 PM

If he is really *that* tight, then I would not have capped preflop since you are heads-up. On the turn you are probably behind (my guess is JJ), but you cannot fold this heads-up. You have to see a showdown.

kgrad5 · #10 07-23-2004, 10:58 AM

Hero called, River brought 7 for full boat
hero checked villain bet, hero called, villain showed AA
i think i made the right play calling this down even if it smelled like a bigger pair..