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Old 07-21-2004, 11:48 PM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

The exact same hand happened to me twice in the last 2 hours.

Dealt KK in MP. BB's=50 early in tourney

First in so I raise 3xBBs

Get one caller the first time, two the second.

Flop come Kxx with 2 of one flavour on board. (no obvious straight draw on board)

One time my K matched the soooot, the other time it didn't.

Both time I bet 2/3 pot to discourage the flush draw.

Both time everyone folded.

Both times I felt unsatisfied not getting better paid for the hand. Now I feel tempted to slow play it the next time I flop the top set (especially the fancy painted type of sets).

Anyone play any different here?

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woodguy
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Old 07-22-2004, 12:29 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

Two thoughts; maybe if you play it faster people will think you dont want callers and call.

Also: if the flop is Kxx, and you have KK, what could people possibly have to call you with besides the last King? And what are the chances of them having that?

I think it's better that you won a small pot than lost your stack when the flush card came on the turn and you have to fold to a reraise.
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Old 07-22-2004, 12:40 AM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Re: Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

durron,
I agree.
After I re-read my post, I realized how stupid the question actually is.
I guess I was just venting some emotion.
Better to win a small pot than lose a big one.

I'll try overbetting it next time to see if I can stink like a bluff, good suggestion.

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woodguy
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Old 07-22-2004, 02:26 AM
SumZero SumZero is offline
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Default Re: Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

The more tempting slowplay is when you don't have top set. Because then the top pair people are more likely to be out there and may call. I still usually don't slowplay it because I hate when the flush hits, but sometimes when out of position I'll check-raise with it.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:12 PM
Desdia72 Desdia72 is offline
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Default Re: Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

[ QUOTE ]
The exact same hand happened to me twice in the last 2 hours.

Dealt KK in MP. BB's=50 early in tourney

First in so I raise 3xBBs

Get one caller the first time, two the second.

Flop come Kxx with 2 of one flavour on board. (no obvious straight draw on board)

One time my K matched the soooot, the other time it didn't.

Both time I bet 2/3 pot to discourage the flush draw.

Both time everyone folded.

Both times I felt unsatisfied not getting better paid for the hand. Now I feel tempted to slow play it the next time I flop the top set (especially the fancy painted type of sets).

Anyone play any different here?

regards,
woodguy

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i think you played the two set King hands fine. at least you won the hand. i raised preflop 3XBB one time with pocket Kings and got 4 callers. flopped another King for a set with two spades present, bet the size of the pot, everybody folded except for the smaller stack who went all-in with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. he caught a spade on the river for a flush. crazy thing about it, he called a 300 preflop raise with three other callers in front of him with a 3 and a 5. like i said, at least you won( [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Tempted to slow play top set with flush draw on board

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Dealt KK in MP. BB's=50 early in tourney

First in so I raise 3xBBs



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If you're upset about winning a small pot, make your preflop raise a little bigger. That way, your pot size bet on the flop will gain you more chips if they all fold.
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