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Old 07-17-2004, 01:18 AM
Frogger Frogger is offline
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Default 100 SnG Update - Higher Limits Day 2

Hmmm.. I'm not doing so hot around the bubble. here are some results that will show you why.

200+15
1: 1
2: 0
3: 1
4: 3
5: 2
6: 0
7: 1
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0

A lot of the 4/5s are due to going all in on draws. I've got to stop being willing to call an all-in on the flop with 4 to a flush. It's just not likely enough that you'll win the pot if you're risking you entire tournament on it. It's stupid business and i've got to stop doing it.

I just had the most exciting 1v1 match at the end of the 200+15 of my life. It must have went about 50 hands 1v1 at the 300/600 blind level 9. I ended up winning, but that's not the point. An interesting hand was this one. I'm in the BB and he minraises. I see 76o and decide that I wanted to see the flop and if I dont hit, I'll get out. Well the flop comes 997. He's been raising with mostly overcards so I figure I'm all set to go. I raise all in and he calls for 4000 with AJo. Next 2 cards are 8d 8c... my 2 pair is counterfeited and his Ace high is good. I was down to 180 chips. i doubled up about 4 times in a row with some Ace high action which was nice. We're about even and I go for the blind steal w/ J3s.. He calls the all-in with AKo. I catch a 3 and MHIG! I was unable to finish him off immediately. He raised all in for 800 off of the SB and I called with 26s. His hand is good. Next hand, I have AKs. I raise all in and he calls with J10. He catches the King high straight. We're back to about 5k/5k. We mess around for a bit until I try and steal with J8s. I catch my flush and the tourney is over. God.. that was intense. I need to see a few more flops w/ out the all in status during 1v1. My strategy of pushing preflop with any decent hand doesn't work too well and results in huge variance and a lot of heartache.

I have the patience to beat the SnGs, but I need to make wiser decisions on the bubble. I don't think any of the 4th or 5th place finishes were due to me waiting for a hand to attack with and not getting one - I.E. getting blinded out. I'm so scared of that happening that I go on the offensive and knock myself off with all in blind steals from hands like AXo KT and the likes. If I want to start getting a positive ROI, I need to change that... FAST.

I played with Zeejustin in one tournament and doubled up quickly with a Ace High flush against someones J6 who spiked 3 6s on the flop. Instead of guarding my stack, I let it dwindle and Justin stole a few hundred chips from me on a re-raise when I had middle pair on the flop. He could smell the weakness I'm guessing. If you'd be so obliged justin to tell me what you had if you had a wired pair, I'd appreciate it.

Going to keep on grinding though and working on the bubble skills. I want to become a real SNG pro but I think I've overestimated my skills. I normally play like 1 200+15 every 2 days or so and end up doing pretty well. It's different when you start to play against that quality opposition every single time and instead of playing the A game that you need to beat them, you end up treating it like another 10+1 SNG and get smoked.

Anyways, time to go back to the grind. Hopefully I'll be able to level my focus and grind in some more ITM. Once I'm ITM, I tend to do pretty well for myself but I hate more than anything going out on the bubble. Before that win.. I had 4 places in a row on the bubble. It's not a very pretty sight.

If you have any comments or suggestions, please feel free to add them. My total goal over 200 SNGs is to get a 50% ROI which is very high but I believe that without enough concentration and improvement, it's a very attainable task.

- Frogger
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Old 07-17-2004, 02:06 AM
eastbay eastbay is offline
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Default Re: 100 SnG Update - Higher Limits Day 2

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Hmmm.. I'm not doing so hot around the bubble. here are some results that will show you why.

200+15
1: 1
2: 0
3: 1
4: 3
5: 2
6: 0
7: 1
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0

A lot of the 4/5s are due to going all in on draws. I've got to stop being willing to call an all-in on the flop with 4 to a flush.

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IMO, if you're doing that, you don't belong anywhere near these stakes. You should have outgrown that before getting to $20+2.

eastbay
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Old 07-17-2004, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: 100 SnG Update - Higher Limits Day 2

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A lot of the 4/5s are due to going all in on draws. I've got to stop being willing to call an all-in on the flop with 4 to a flush.

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IMO, if you're doing that, you don't belong anywhere near these stakes. You should have outgrown that before getting to $20+2.


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Is that a blanket statement? On the flop you are less than 2-1 against TPTK (better with overcards) or 3-1 against a set, so surely you have to be willing to call at least pot-sized all-in bets with a 4-flush? (If you can't push first.)
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Old 07-17-2004, 02:52 AM
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God.. I hate myself.. Another 4th place finish in a 200+15

and another 4th in a 100+9. I had 73 and flop came 745. I raised all in and the chipleader calls with A9... Catches ace of the river.. 4 left in a 200+15 now.. wish me luck
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Old 07-17-2004, 02:54 AM
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Woo Hoo! Got 3rd in this one.. QQ lost to 2 Pair 54. Hopefully I'll double up and take 2nd
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Old 07-17-2004, 03:45 AM
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Results update:

200+15
1: 1
2: 1
3: 2
4: 4
5: 2
6: 0
7: 1
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0

ITM 37%
ROI 1.47%

Heart Failures: 3
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Old 07-17-2004, 04:51 AM
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200+15
1: 1
2: 1
3: 3
4: 4
5: 2
6: 0
7: 1
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0

ITM 42%
ROI 8.47%

Heart Failures: 3
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Old 07-17-2004, 07:01 AM
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Played 8 50+5 SnGs 4 at a time.. Here are the results:

1: 0
2: 3
3: 0
4: 1
5: 1
6: 1
7: 1
8: 0
9: 1
10: 0

The 9th was when my QQ all in preflop lost to a 99.. I caught a set but he caught a straight king high.

That's a 37.5% itm... what's the ROI though you might ask! 10$ profit.. means 1.25 per sng. That's a whopping 2.3% ROI omg! I am amazing. God do I suck.
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Old 07-17-2004, 12:22 PM
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A lot of the 4/5s are due to going all in on draws. I've got to stop being willing to call an all-in on the flop with 4 to a flush.

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IMO, if you're doing that, you don't belong anywhere near these stakes. You should have outgrown that before getting to $20+2.


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Is that a blanket statement? On the flop you are less than 2-1 against TPTK (better with overcards) or 3-1 against a set, so surely you have to be willing to call at least pot-sized all-in bets with a 4-flush? (If you can't push first.)

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No, but it's pretty close. all-in could be 5 more chips in a pot of 1500, in which case you clearly call. But calling for all your chips in marginal situations is bad play, much less calling for all your chips as a dog, which is the common case.

eastbay
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Old 07-17-2004, 12:27 PM
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That's a 37.5% itm... what's the ROI though you might ask! 10$ profit.. means 1.25 per sng. That's a whopping 2.3% ROI omg! I am amazing. God do I suck.

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Either that or you're not ready for these games.
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