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Old 07-15-2004, 11:43 PM
GuyOnTilt GuyOnTilt is offline
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Default I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

2+2 table. Tables in tight mode for the orbit plus I've been here. Four folds to me and I open-raise with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Bison on my immediate left 3-bets. Folded around to me and I muck.

The table didn't like it at all. What say you?

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Old 07-15-2004, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

I say I don't like the open raise and I like the fold even less. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Especially at a table of rampant 3-betters like this table has had in the past.

Admittedly it's going to be very uncomfortable postflop, and you could be dominated, but getting 6-1 I'll grit my teeth and call.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:24 AM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

I don't like the fold. I'm assuming you made the play hoping for a large part to be able to take the blinds or at least win the flop with a bet, when you get 3-bet and then fold, you basically showed thats what you were hoping for and at a table full of tight aggresive players I don't think you want them knowing you'll fold to a 3 bet pre flop, its inviting them to take shots at you, and it takes away some of your ability to steal pots which is were a lot of your money can be made at a table like this. But then again everyone at the table knows you, so this one play really isn't going to change anyones "read" on you, but getting close to 6-1 and for image sake I still make the call.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:40 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

Irony has it that GoT said he hated these Tommy Angelo-esque folds.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:42 AM
GuyOnTilt GuyOnTilt is offline
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

Irony has it that GoT said he hated these Tommy Angelo-esque folds.

I hated them with 22 and T9s. This is a lot different.

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Old 07-16-2004, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

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Irony has it that GoT said he hated these Tommy Angelo-esque folds.

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I will agree this is a much less Angelo-esque fold than Tommy's 22 though. This fold is somewhat defensible.
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

It seems pretty close...but I think the fun in outflopping your opponent with this hand makes up for any possible negative EV from calling here.
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Old 07-16-2004, 03:53 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

What, did you forget how to play postflop?
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Old 07-16-2004, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

I want a better kicker to make this raise, A9s, maybe a little less. Anyways, there is no way I fold getting 6.5:1 after his raise...

I dont know why you think this is much different from 98s and 22...

You cant throw any of them away if you make a pair on a ragged flop...
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Old 07-16-2004, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: I Suck at Poker : A4s in MP

LOL, 'bakku' isn't really bison, we were screwing with ya. Although I don't think it makes too much of a difference, I 3-bet you, not bison.
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