Call All-in with a 4-flush and two overcards?

[poboys]

I keep pulling this hand up in PokerTracker and thinking about it. This was the turning point for me in the tourny. Mr. Aggressive (as I've dubbed him) loved to go all-in when he caught a piece. Everytime he called he had some piece of the flop. Based on my reads, I believed that he had at least a pair. As you can see, I folded (typical, huh)?

Would you have called... and why?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed)

UTG (t2230)
MP (t1215)
CO (t2835)
Button (t170)
SB <font color="purple">(Mr.Aggressive)</font> (t735)
Hero (t815)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">4 folds</font>, SB <font color="purple">(Mr.Aggressive)</font> completes, Hero checks,

Flop: (t200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Mr.Aggressive bets t635 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t835

[stupidsucker]

on the flop you have to fold that.

Preflop pushing after the complete is an option though. One I would probably take. Am I too aggressive?

[Beavis68]

It depends on what you put him on. If both your cards are live, and he only has a on pair and the kicker is K or J you are a favorite. If he has A Q not suited to the diamonds, you are a favorite. Do you feel lucky? Would you be upset with your self knowing you went all-in with only a slight edge?

This is much better if you are pushing, it is more questinoable since you are calling. Having a stack of 765 or so with 50/100 blinds, I may make the call.

[patrick dicaprio]

i would call here. if he is really aggressive he probably would have raised with many of teh hands that beat you and even if he somehow flopped a set or two pair or something you still have the flush draw. you are both small stacks so there is also the chance that he is just making a play with nothing.

Pat

[TheCat]

I'd call. You have 15 outs if he has top pair. This is not a coin flip you are 73-27 favourite.

[pokerkai]

your at the very worst, a slight dog here, but at the same time, at the very best, only a slight favorite.
i think this is a fold, you dont want to reduce this tournament to a coin flip

p.s. i woulda pushed PF

[ddubois]

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I'd call. You have 15 outs if he has top pair. This is not a coin flip you are 73-27 favourite.

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Don't know how you get this, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

Best case scenario:
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7s Td 4d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kd Jd 550 55.56 440 44.44 0 0.00 0.556
Tc 2c 440 44.44 550 55.56 0 0.00 0.444

Worst case scenario:
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 7s Td 4d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Kd Jd 271 27.37 719 72.63 0 0.00 0.274
4s 4c 719 72.63 271 27.37 0 0.00 0.726

Hero is in dead-heat with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

The pot is giving a 200 overlay, and hero has him covered (barely). There's also the slim possibility that SB is doing a stop-n-go with nothing, or a good possibiltiy that SB is semi-bluffing a worse draw. This is very tough, hopefully someone better than me will have a good response.

[pokerkai]

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I'd call. You have 15 outs if he has top pair. This is not a coin flip you are 73-27 favourite.

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73-27???
more like 55-45

[allenciox]

I do not agree that these are best-case and worst-case scenarios... First of all, a set is almost certainly NOT there, heads-up he would WANT a call. His all-in screams "I want you to fold" --- he either has a pocket pair or he has paired the board, or he has a flush or straight draw. I see the following as likely possibilities:

98 (any)
Two diamonds (any)
Tx
7x
4x
88,99,JJ

Two overcards.

Most likely he has one pair...

By the way, the worst case scenario is he has Ad Qd, but it is unlikely. In that case you are a severe underdog.


I would call here --- you are both shortstacked.

By the way, best case scenario would be he has QJ, which gives you a huge lead.

[Tosh]

If I don't go in preflop, which I do, I don't fold that flop.