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Old 07-14-2004, 03:10 AM
DonWaade DonWaade is offline
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Default Players not in HOF that should be

A caveat from the Mcguire thread. Does anyone think there should be a standard to get in the hall. Injuries and other unforseen circumsatnces being the exception. Does 500 HRs get you in, as in the case of McGuire (likely) and Reggie Jackson? Does 3000 hits get you in as in the case (again likely) of Wade Boggs?

Here are some players I think should be in the HOF that are not:

Harvey Haddix
Gil Hodges
Carl Erskine
Maury Willis
Denny McLain
Roger Maris
Ryne Sandberg (will hopefully be soon)
Alan Tramell
Tony Gwynn (shoe in when elegible)
Rickey Henderson (shoe in when elegible)
Wade Boggs (soon)
Cal Ripken (shoe in)

Any thoughts?
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Old 07-14-2004, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

Other than the players that are not eligible yet, the list should begin and end with Bert Blyleven.
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Old 07-14-2004, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

Pete Rose
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Old 07-14-2004, 04:02 AM
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Shoeless Joe Jackson
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

I assume your Haddix, Wills, McLain and Maris entries rest on their singular accomplishments, not on their career achievements. Of the four, Wills was perhaps the only one who had a chance, but his post-career problems may have hurt him.

I suppose one could make a case that if Tony Perez is in, Gil Hodges should be. And Hodges was a fine manager who won a World Series. I think neither should be in though.

I'd consider Blyleven, Kaat, Santo and Dick Allen.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:10 PM
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Default Jim Rice

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I suppose one could make a case that if Tony Perez is in, Gil Hodges should be.

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I hate this logic, BUT, if Tony Perez is in, then Jim Rice should be in. Compare the numbers, and remember Rice had a much shorter career than Perez. Rice compares favorably to Orlando Cepeda, too.

I don't know if I really think Rice should be in... I tend to lean that way. If he played today he would probably put up numbers similar to Manny... Unfortunately, Jim Ed probably needed 1 more good year to make it.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

3,000 hits will continue to get guys in automatically. It's not becoming any easier over time. For instance, of the active players, I doubt more than three or four will reach that mark. Alomar has the best chance, followed by Biggio, and Jeter. Other than possibly Biggio, none of those guys will need that milestone to get in.

Fred McGriff won't get in even if he hits seven more HR's and that's the way it should be.

Sooga is right about Blyleven. He needs to be in.
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Old 07-14-2004, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Jim Rice

Agree on all counts. I mean Lloyd Waner is in, does that mean Willie McGee should be?

Rice is indeed a close call.
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Old 07-14-2004, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

I deliberatley left Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson of the list. But I agree both should be in there. Especially Shoeless Joe.
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Old 07-14-2004, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Players not in HOF that should be

I've only been following baseball since around 1977.

- Jim Rice
- Bert Blyleven
- If Gary Carter is in, then, IMO, Ted Simmons should be, as well

They should create a separate building down the street somewhere for:

- Dave Parker, Bill Buckner, Al Oliver - 2700 hits
- Dave Kingman, Darrell Evans, Jose Canseco - 400 HR...try mixing in some more singles.
- Ron Guidry, Dwight Gooden - the candle that burns twice as bright...
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