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Old 07-12-2004, 11:55 PM
mikeyvegas mikeyvegas is offline
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Default A-Qo Party 2/4

I'm not sure about this hand pf in the sb. Is this an auto raise or is it # of limpers dependent? I really didn't want to raise, but that's probably cause I'm a wimp. For the bets on the turn and river I felt that I could very well be ahead.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks,

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

River: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 6 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6 BB, between Hero and BB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (6 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Qc Ah (two pair, sixes and fives).
BB shows 4c 2s (two pair, sixes and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 6 BB. </font>
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Old 07-13-2004, 02:03 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: A-Qo Party 2/4

Mike E Vegas:


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I'm not sure about this hand pf in the sb. Is this an auto raise or is it # of limpers dependent? I really didn't want to raise, but that's probably cause I'm a wimp.

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Easy preflop raise. I almost always raise AQ out of the blinds. It is harder to play out of position when you miss, but your hand is usually so much better than the limpers' hands, that it is a mistake not to punish them for limping with crap.

You need to print this history out, making sure to include the bb's hand, and refer to it everytime you have a tough decision on whether to value bet the river at Party 2/4. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 07-13-2004, 02:47 PM
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Easy raise preflop. If you had limped in with A8s, JTs, or 33, would you be happy that AQo raised you? What if you had a complete piece of trash as they so often do? And how about if you were BB hoping for a free chance to flop big with 97s?

Make them miserable. Raise. AJo is enough for me and I am one of the calmer ones around here.

I would have advised you not to bet this river. I thought that a worse hand would rarely call but might bluff. But there is just nothing I can say that outweighs BB's calling for half the pot with 4-high. Wow.
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Old 07-13-2004, 02:53 PM
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I refuse to read a post where a person doesn't raise PF with AQo. after all that's been written here about it, I find it unfuckingbelievable that people are still calling with it
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Old 07-13-2004, 02:56 PM
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A bit caustic today, aren't we? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 07-13-2004, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: A-Qo Party 2/4

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...I find it unfuckingbelievable that people are still calling with it

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Ok, I think I get your subtle point.
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:06 PM
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Sthief:

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I refuse to read a post where a person doesn't raise PF with AQo. after all that's been written here about it, I find it unfuckingbelievable that people are still calling with it

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a.) Not everyone can spend as much time on the forums as we can. Perhaps he has not read the numerous threads on the subject.

b.) I am quite certain, when I was new to the forums, I made many posts on subjects covered numerous times by the veterans. Did you not?

I understand your frustration....hell, I share it. But you seem wound a little tightly....

Breath in.......Breath out.......Breath in.......Breath out.

Feel better? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Old 07-13-2004, 03:24 PM
mikeyvegas mikeyvegas is offline
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I just got done reading this post and I feel a little better about raising in this position. I don't mind people being blunt with me, just wish it was a little more constuctive. I do value most of your posts though.
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Old 07-13-2004, 04:11 PM
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I don't mind people being blunt with me, just wish it was a little more constuctive. I do value most of your posts though.

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Some people learn better the StellarWind patient-explanation way and some learn better the sthief baseball-bat way.

I'm betting you will think twice before completing with AQ next time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

That makes sthief's post very constructive indeed.
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