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Old 07-11-2005, 05:17 PM
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I don't really know how it is done, but the site sends your computer data and another program can read this data, not just how it is rendered.

I haven't used playerview or gametime or whatever, but they seem know what is going on at your tables.
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Old 07-11-2005, 06:32 PM
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i thought this thread was called "ethics of damnation."
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Old 07-11-2005, 08:37 PM
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But my ethics are based on value. It is only right for all parties to do what is best for them(all things considered, in the long term).

Maybe this question asks the marginal value of the emotional return from each of these actions. Personally, none of these things bother me.

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Old 07-11-2005, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of Datamining

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Maybe this question asks the marginal value of the emotional return from each of these actions.

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Well, something like that, I guess.

Khern's emotional return = not bothered. Got it.
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Old 07-11-2005, 08:50 PM
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Old 07-11-2005, 10:14 PM
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is it unethical that when i play in a cash game that i likely have a higher knowledge of the game and understanding of what is going on that most of the others at the table? is it unethical that some of them may not have the intelligence to gather said data even if they tried?

is it unethical that people buy and sell stocks with much, much less information that institutional investors and others who use these same types of techniques for the markets?

the same goes for sports, education and any other competitive arena.

i say 'meh' accross the board.
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Old 07-11-2005, 10:17 PM
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well, in terms of stocks you have heard of insider trading, right?


those are kind of apples and oranges.


btw, sorry i couldnt come play last saturday. had some school stuff to work out. that place on 38th is nowhere near as nice as players club was, but the games are still good.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: Ethics of Datamining

This brings up an interesting thought.

Although PP would never agree to this. It would be interesting if they disclosed what tools various players used, instead of just banning them.

Using the stock trading analogy. It's not illegal to go onto a news program and pump a stock and then make a trade as long as you disclose your position.

What if there were little icons next to each user that showed that someone uses PT, PP, etc.. etc.? Would that help even the playing field?
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:38 AM
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i'm not really looking for a level playing field [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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