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Old 01-03-2005, 08:42 PM
me454555 me454555 is offline
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

w/2 limpers, a raiser, and a cold caller, this seems pretty standard considering your in position. If BB call, not a far stretch, this is a 6 way pot and I like your chances. Well played
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Old 01-03-2005, 08:54 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

Rob:


A reading from the Letter of ED to his Disciples:

"If at least four people have entered the pot in front of you:

Against a Raise
Play: Any pocket pair, any 2 suited cards ten and higher, any suited ace, and T9s - 76s. Also AK and AQ."

The gospel of ED.......(thanks be to NPA)

So, I assume Ed would call in this spot.

I dunno. I can say this type of situation does not come up all that often for me, and I generally choose to fold. I can say I am more comfortable calling with JTs or 33 in this spot rather than Axs. Perhaps my discomfort is not warranted.

--Rico
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Old 01-03-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

A case can be made for three-betting. Why?

1. Positive equity, even if dominated. Despite the risk of domination, your hand is still an overlay in general and could really cripple hands like A2 and 98--not to mention other flush draws.

2. Buy information. If the PFR caps the betting you know you will have to be more careful if you flop an Ace. You will also know where you stand if the flop comes Ace-high and he bets.

3. You may get a free card if you want one. Say the flop comes down something like:

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You have a number of crappy draws here, but if PFR sets you up with a check-raise (with KK, say), you will gladly take a free card instead. If you catch a diamond, a nine, or an ace, you will have given yourself a decent prospect of winning. Therefore, you will have improved your equity even further at the temporary cost of one small bet.
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Old 01-04-2005, 01:29 AM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

You've picked the perfect spot and pot/players involved to cold-call here.

Keep flopping the nuts,
Joe Tall
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Old 01-04-2005, 10:57 AM
Munga30 Munga30 is offline
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

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Final Pot: 26 BB

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Cold-call goot!
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:55 AM
Sarge85 Sarge85 is offline
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Default Re: Cold Calling Preflop w/ A8 soooted

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A case can be made for three-betting. Why?

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I don't think so....
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1. Positive equity, even if dominated. Despite the risk of domination, your hand is still an overlay in general and could really cripple hands like A2 and 98--not to mention other flush draws.

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For some reason my Poker Stove is FUBAR, but in a raised pot, don't think there is wiggle room to be three betting here. -= could be wrong though

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2. Buy information. If the PFR caps the betting you know you will have to be more careful if you flop an Ace. You will also know where you stand if the flop comes Ace-high and he bets.

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What info are you willing to pay for? If he caps you are up against a big pair - but which one? If he just calls your up against big aces? or maybe TT or JJ even. Is he just smooth calling to get the middle limpers to come along. I don't think your buying anything here.
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3. You may get a free card if you want one. Say the flop comes down something like:

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There are most likely going to be 6 people in this pot on the flop..... Don't you think someone may stab at it?

I guess I just want to point out that in this case cold calling may have been favorable, but I can't see that three betting is even more favorable.

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