Nut flush draw + pair + bkdoor straight...slow down?

[Derek in NYC]

Sorry my fault, I thought you CCPF.

[NoDice]

I think the only reasonable hand that you're behind is JT. When you think about the range of possible hands that he could have raised the turn with (A9, A8, A7, 89, 78, 88, 99, 77), I think a raise is in order. However, the fact that he three bet makes it possible that you're up against JT. That's why I would suggest calling 3 bets on the river rather than capping until you have a better read on the player, but I think your initial raise was a no-brainer. I'd guess that you won the hand against two pair or a set.

[edtost]

i bet, but i think it might be a leak of mine.

[DrPublo]

He had Th Jc for the turned gutshot to the nuts. Oh well.

Also capping the river never really occured to me because when he instantly 3-bet me I was pretty sure I was behind. If I had more of a read on the player I might not have raised the river, but as the hand played out I think I played it as well as I could have.

Thanks for the responses.

The Doc

[wheelz]

With 3 people left to act, should just calling the flop be considered?

[DrPublo]

Isn't this one of those spots where I want to clean up some of my outs? I really wouldnt mind if 54 folded, for example, cleaning up my 6 if I catch 2 pair. Also there are some Ax hands with which I might be chopping if the board comes high-high that I dont mind if they fold either. A2, for example.

You can also think of my raise as a value raise. If I can get 4 or 5 people to call my raise when I have the nut flush draw + TP + backdoor straight, I make a ton of Sklansky bucks. As it is I'm still +EV on the turn action, even with the folds.

I think the flop is a pretty clean raise. Anyone disagree?

The Doc

[Freakin]

Flop raise is standard. It's unlikely given the apparent texture of the table that all 3 players will fold. If you get even one more caller (plus bettor) than it's for value, but you already knew that. Jam the crap outa that draw.

Freakin

[Evan]

I haven't read the thread yet so don't kill me for repeating advice. But I think you need to bet the turn. This is not a "check with outs" spot since you're likely to have to best hand at the moment.

On the river I'm capping because it looks a lot like MP slowplayd a set-ish hand. Check-coldcalling 2 is pretty common when somone flops a monster. If he has JT/T6 then I guess I lose the maximum, but since he can't 5 bet I think you should cap here. IMO you'll see 77/88 more often than a bigger straight.