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Old 04-21-2002, 11:09 AM
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You know what I find frustrating about live poker?


Very slow dealing algorithm and no one uses the advance fold button.


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Old 04-21-2002, 11:24 AM
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I have played $4-8 there just a few weeks back. It was a weeknight, it wasn't that busy. They had one $2-4 table, one $4-8 table, and the pink 7.5-15 game was also going. Those were the only hold'em games that night.
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Old 04-21-2002, 12:33 PM
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Default Using the fold button live



Well before it's your turn, you push your cards forward. For emphasis, you stand and walk away from the table.
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:40 PM
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The best buyin is $1. Mason has an essay on it...
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Old 04-21-2002, 01:48 PM
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Here's another:


Rake: I played for the first time live in a year or so, earlier this month. Low limits (only limits in the room when i could play) 1-4-8-8. They were taking $6 per pot, $4 rake, $1 jackpot, $1 tip. This is in NewOrleans, people gamble, all pots were max of $4.


This rake /tip is unbeatable, period.


Players suck so bad, but it simply doesn't matter.


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Old 04-21-2002, 05:37 PM
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Though many in my live game use the "advance bet" or "advance raise" buttons.....


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Old 04-21-2002, 11:03 PM
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"This rake /tip is unbeatable, period."


So you couldn't beat it, that makes it impossible. Too many fish, to hard to put a player on a hand...


The simple fact is that you are playing with a flawed strategy (you are a loser). Learn to live with this fact, it will confront you often in life.
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Old 04-22-2002, 12:37 AM
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Your post was interesting and Im not here to insult you. But...I believe your theory is backwards. There are far more fish players on the internet. Everyones a tough guy behind the computer. Honestly I have had no success online but have won thousands in live games--I too had a good experience to online poker at first--but you just wait--You will lose like the rest of us honest players. STICK TO THE LIVE GAMES BUD--I WOULD IF I LIVED CLOSE TO A CASINO


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Old 04-22-2002, 01:26 AM
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I've played a lot at UB and some at Paradise since they started NL and I'm ahead in both places. It's possible. I have friends that have beaten the limit games over the course of a year as well, some of them for over two big bets an hour. If you don't want to play online fine, but don't spew that rubbish here.
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Old 04-22-2002, 03:41 AM
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Online, for the same limits, from my experience, it's definitely harder than live! The players are better. Of course there's usually 1 or 2 or 3 bad players, sometimes several really bad players online, but there's more bad players live. For example, on the low limits on Paradise, flop percentages of 35% is good. In live play, many times there'd be 6+ out of 9 players seeing the flop (this is in Hollywood Park in Los Angeles).


I don't think anyone who has played $3-$6 at HP would disagree that it's generally an easier game than $3-$6 online.


Also, haktOne, about the live games, when everyone's loose, you need a better hand to win. Play more high suited connectors, pairs, etc... Maybe fold some hands you'd raise with, like AJo from early position. In a tight game, you can steal, but in a loose game, you have to flop an A or J high to be happy, and even then, you'd be out of position the rest of the hand.


Since the rake's higher, and the players are looser in live play, you can afford to give up hands with slight positive EV, and instead punish them when situations appear with larger EV. For example, pumping a nut flush draw with 4 callers on the flop.


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