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Old 12-14-2003, 07:25 PM
astroglide astroglide is offline
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

yeah. i would think a shaky bet as opposed to a dark bet a better way of getting him to put money in with the worst of it. if he'll bet anything, sure, check it. i wouldn't if there's a decent chance he'd take a free card, though.

i do appreciate a good dark bet, but i don't think this is the place.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

"I rarely bet dark, but is my game missing this weapon?"

yes. it kicks ass.
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

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"I rarely bet dark, but is my game missing this weapon?"

yes. it kicks ass.


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I would love to hear a reasonable explanation of how betting in the dark can be good.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

it's been mentioned before. players tend to call more and raise less. it also works as a bit of a lie detector, but when they raise you it is oftentimes merely out of spite and not because they are strong.

it also warns players that when they get involved in a hand with you, you will tend to have something so strong that you are not afraid to bet streets dark and that they will not be looking at getting a bunch of free cards.

there's more: it gives added strength to your checkraises. on the times that you do check (in order to raise) they will figure you are just giving up or else why wouldnt you bet dark like you normally do? so then when you checkraise they will really be confused and scared. so now your checkraise bluffs will have more power!

and there's one more reason: when you bet the flop dark you then free yourself up to not even look at the flop. to just watch your opponent's faces and see how they react to those first few precious seconds of the flop being spread. and a lot of times they will then proceed to check after you, not realising you have already bet. very valuable!

the bottom line is try and it and you will start to see what a powerful tool it can be in a game where aggression and position are so important.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

"if he'll bet anything, sure, check it. i wouldn't if there's a decent chance he'd take a free card, though."

he's very happy to take free cards and im not sure i wanted to give him one. so i had sort of decided to just go ahead and bet in the split second before the turn was dealt.

in other words i guess this just one of those decisions that remains up in the air. im more concerned with the flop and preflop play.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

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i felt like the flop may have been weak tight. do i really want to checkraise and try to clear everyone out on this flop? my sense is that better players (meaning not necessarily any of you) try to build a pot here w/ pair of aces strong kicker.

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7 players PF means the pot size is already decent enough. Don't let them catch your good -- but not great -- hand.
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:43 AM
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Default Rick Nebiolo said . . .

"Limp? You limp? I raise. Limpers deserved to be punished."

He is of course correct. Never mind that the board ended up Q-T-7-J-J and Rick had A-K and the limper had 7-7. First hand of the day, we had all just started the game.

Limpers do deserve punishment.

I'm not sure about blind bettors. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: weak tight or just right?

hi mike
well played.
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