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Old 08-22-2004, 07:31 PM
Sundevils21 Sundevils21 is offline
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

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Ironic you asked this question - I was in a live MTT and we were discussing getting AA every hand most of us agreed it would be hard to make the final table. Now some guy thinks you will WIN 95% of your tournaments with a miserable hand like JJ.

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here is what happens getting aa every time. You double up early a couple times and even when you do get beat, you still have 20x's the closest competetor. With JJ you win a ton of small pots never risking your stack, ever. 95% is probably too low, like he said. It should be 98-99%. With AA its got to be 99.0% at least.
btw, the "some guy" should read "the guy".
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Old 08-22-2004, 07:34 PM
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Well some guy - you'd probably bust out the 1st hand.

LOL - some mutt is more like it.
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Old 08-22-2004, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

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Well some guy - you'd probably bust out the 1st hand.

LOL - some mutt is more like it.

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rotfl. take it easy on him guys. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

*that is the point, I wouldn't risk all my chips on ANY hand(not even the first) and would NEVER be forced to go all in.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

Who the hell would call an all-in by you preflop if they knew you had AA? If you had AA every hand, you go all-in and make them suck out. It'd probably be best to fold for the first few levels until the blinds were big enough to be worth stealing (see Sklansky and Tournament Poker for Advanced Players...this is his "system" on crack). If you don't win a tournament 99% of the time getting AA every hand then theres a problem.
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:49 AM
MikeGuz MikeGuz is offline
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

I have busted out of tournaments 4 times on the first hand with AA - I have seen it many more times - as a matter of fact I'd say my my biggest bust out hands are AAKKQQ and I'd bet most of you could say the same.

99.0% no way not even close.
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

Good point astro. JJ is the only loser for me from AA-88. I won't say it's bad luck. I think that it's not as easy to get away from as TT-88.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:27 AM
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I think that it's not as easy to get away from as TT-88.

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It would be a LOT easier if you knew it was coming again next hand.
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Old 08-23-2004, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: If you had Jacks every hand...

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I have busted out of tournaments 4 times on the first hand with AA - I have seen it many more times - as a matter of fact I'd say my my biggest bust out hands are AAKKQQ and I'd bet most of you could say the same.

99.0% no way not even close.

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If an expert player knew he was getting AA on every hand and somebody put him all-in on the first hand of a tournament, the expert would fold.

The point some of you seem to be missing is that you will never be all-in if you play expertly. So, you can't bust out.

I've revising my estimate up (for both AA and JJ) to 99.9%.
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:09 PM
MikeGuz MikeGuz is offline
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Wish you could be priven wrong but is is impossible - such a stupid thread I don't beleive I got involved - BTW even "experts" bust out all the time IF you ever meet one you just ask him.
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Old 08-23-2004, 06:28 PM
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BTW even "experts" bust out all the time IF you ever meet one you just ask him.

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Yeah, but they don't get AA every hand either.
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