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Old 08-06-2004, 01:55 AM
zephyr zephyr is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

No him tracking his hands wasn't scientific enough in the 18th century, and definetly isn't scientific enough now. Perhaps your friend would like to give some details on his results besides just claiming that the site is rigged.
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Old 08-06-2004, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

what i don't understand is why anyone would think that poker stars or party or really any place would need to rig it up.
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

I wonder which type of pattern is more likely? Which one would make you wonder if the coin was even?
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:08 AM
RPatterson RPatterson is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

Durron so you think it is as likely for me to flip a coin 20 times and wind up with heads 20 times, as it is to wind up with 10 of each? If so, read your math books again.
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

dude, that is not even close to what he said, that was not his point, at least not the way i read it. i think his point was that any specific pattern is just as likely as any other specific pattern. another way of putting it is that your chances of getting exactly AhKhQhJhTh on any one given hand are absolutely equal to your chances of getting exactly 2d4s5c9hQs
any given hand or coin flip or whatever is completely independent of the hand or coinflip that came before it. just because you flip heads ten times in a row doesn't change the fact that you have a 50% chance of flipping heads the 11th time.
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Old 08-06-2004, 02:46 AM
ethan ethan is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

neither specific pattern's more likely, clearly. On the other hand 10H+10T is much more likely than 20H in 20 coin flips, which is probably a better analogy than the specific pattern.

And no, online poker's not rigged, and 150 hands is too small a sample to show otherwise.
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:10 AM
RPatterson RPatterson is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

Then I have to ask what specific coinflipping patterns have to do with poker all-in sample statistics.
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

There are some posters who deserve a great deal of respect. I haven't read any of Utah's stuff for a while but he definately used to be one of them. Perhaps people shouldn't be so quick to slag him off.
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Old 08-06-2004, 03:27 AM
RPatterson RPatterson is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

Everyone on this forum knows that anyone who looks at statistical all-in data is clearly a moron looking for excuses why they suck.
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Old 08-06-2004, 04:09 AM
mackthefork mackthefork is offline
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Default Re: Pokerstars Tournament Allin Dealing is Inaccurate

I did a survey of my all ins last time i was running bad, everything was fine except for the situations where I had an overpair to the flop and villian had top pair top kicker, I should have won 80% of them I won 45% over a sample size of 50. I have won much more than my fair share of these situations recently to make up for it, the deal is fair I'm confident of it.

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