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#11
06-07-2004, 11:35 AM
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Re: A preflop quiz of sorts.
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1) KJo in the SB. LAG openraises UTG, 2 coldcalls by fishies. Folded back to you. 2) AJo in the SB. TAG openraises UTG, 2 coldcalls. Folded back to you. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1. Fold. 2. That's tough. I often fold it to an early position raiser, and to a TAG raise. But with the fish in, and the fact that I only need to call the half bet, I think this hand stands a chance. I'd call, but play cautiously. [/ QUOTE ] Shalara, Just curious...why do you feel #2 is a possible call but #1 is a clear fold? Personally I'd feel better playing KJo against an LAG than AJo against a TAG. I don't feel great about playing either one out of position which is why I would fold both even for 3/4 price. Thoughts? 
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#14
06-07-2004, 01:08 PM
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Re: A preflop quiz of sorts.
That's a good question.
KJo, to me, is easily dominated. Even a fish can catch a good hand once in a while, and the unsuited one-gap not even ace-high just looks, well, hopeless. AJo has a lot of the same problems. Though I'd probably call here, it's not an easy call by any means. Maybe it is better to fold. It's easily dominated, and it's an unsuited 2-gap. On the other hand, it is often easier to put a TAG on a hand than a LAG, while playing with other loose players in. There are a lot of hands the TAG could be raising with. If an ace does hit the flop, unless TAG has AA, AK, or AQ, you've probably got it sewed up. No matter what hits, you can probably put him on a hand, and see how yours measures up. And the implied odds might make it call-worthy. Must admit I thought it was a half bet though... re-reading, I see the words "SB", and I am berating myself for not paying enough attention [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I would call it from the BB, not from the SB. But if that is absolutely terrible [perhaps it is... nearly everyone else would fold here], I'd like to understand why exactly. So I'm really glad you asked the question.
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#16
06-07-2004, 01:32 PM
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Re: A preflop quiz of sorts.
I like playing these:
1) Fold. Bad position with a trouble hand. 2) Fold. Bad position with a marginal hand against a raise by a strong player UTG... 3) Raise. Raise or fold here. If you call, it will probably be capped by LAG anyway, so calling isn't an option. May as well show strength to the TAG by capping. Also, you have strong position to work on. Maybe I'm the LAG... 4) Call unless the limpers will be coming along for a 3 bet. If 3 of 4 will call a 3 bet, then I'll 3-bet it. 5&6) Fold. TAG raising UTG is enough for me to save my chips for later use. 7) Call. 13:1 odds. Need I say more? 8) Where is the LAG? On my immediate left I call and 3-bet/cap. Otherwise raise.
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#17
06-07-2004, 02:13 PM
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Re: A preflop quiz of sorts.
Interesting...
[ QUOTE ] 1) KJo in the SB. LAG openraises UTG, 2 coldcalls by fishies. Folded back to you. 2) AJo in the SB. TAG openraises UTG, 2 coldcalls. Folded back to you. 3) 99 on the button. LAG openraises from MP1. TAG 3bets (he's tried to isolate the LAG a couple of times). Folded to you. 4) TT in the BB. 4 limpers. TAG raises in the SB. 5) A8s in the CO. TAG raises UTG. 3 coldcallers. 6) same as 5, but 2 coldcallers. 7) 98o in the BB. TAG raises UTG. 5 coldcallers. Back to you. 8) AA UTG. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Fold. No tags involved makes this a tough decision. I definetly call in the BB blind but fold in the SB. 2. Fold. Not even a question here. What is a TAG going to raise w/ from UTG? I assume I'm dominated and I fold. 3. Fold. Not enough equity / implied odds in this one to call and not good enough to raise with. 4. Call. Even some very fishy players will fold rather than call 2. Not likely they will raise, but all will call. Charge with a flop you like. 5. Fold. Tough one here. I don't like the 8 kicker which takes some equity out of the hand. I have to assume the two other TAG's are after me as well so there is a chance of a 3 bet to come. If I'm going to play this one I 3 bet to try and buy the button and fool the TAG into thinking my hand is stronger than it is. That being said, I'll wait for AQs 6. Fold. See above. 7. Call. 13 to 1 on my money, last to act this round. Easy to get away from if I miss the flop. 8. Raise all day and twice on Sunday. Chris are you going to be grading these? Is there a curve? deke (AKA BlindChippy)
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#18
06-07-2004, 02:21 PM
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Re: A preflop quiz of sorts.
1- Interesting. I want to fold, but Given all the money in the pot and your reads on the players, I'm tempted to call.
2- Against a good players UTG raise, I'm laying this hand down. 3- call 4- re-raise. 5- call 6- call 7- call 8- fold, you're out of position :^).
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