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Old 06-07-2004, 05:09 AM
thirddan thirddan is offline
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Default An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 12 BB, between SB, BB, Hero and MP3.</font>

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Old 06-07-2004, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

You played it correctly in my opinion. You got a piece of the flop and had the right odds to call on both the flop and the turn. I certainly wouldn't bet the river since an Ace is probably out there and there aren't a lot of hands that would call you...

If anything i might not raise pre-flop, all depends on the table makeup.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:49 AM
Namebejed7 Namebejed7 is offline
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

I like your play here except I would probably raise the flop. If a three bet can buy the button, you can possibly take a free card on the turn, and a three bet is beleivable because you could very easily have AQ, which is what a three bet would represent, and might chase a weaker ace out to make your second pair a winning hand. Otherwise I think you played the hand perfectly.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

A weaker ace is very unlikely to fold at these limits. A chasable weaker ace probably won't call a raise preflop.

I think he played it just fine.
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

Raise the flop.

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Old 06-07-2004, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

You can pump it on that flop for value.
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Old 06-07-2004, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

why is 2betting the flop correct? my hand in unlikely to be good, but i do have the nut flush draw, so don't i want people to stay in the pot?
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:10 PM
ThePopinjay ThePopinjay is offline
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

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why is 2betting the flop correct? my hand in unlikely to be good, but i do have the nut flush draw, so don't i want people to stay in the pot?

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I agree with you on just calling the flop. You'll maximize your winnings that way if you hit. However, 3betting the flop does give you a strong possibility of getting a free card on the turn. In this situation I think the best course of action is just calling the flop here.
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

I'd 3-bet this flop.

SB and BB will likely stick around. If you were only drawing to the flush, you would only need 2 other players in the pot to make this a value raise. But you are drawing to much more than that. You have 2 pair and trip outs as well. You would rather have 3 others in the pot, of course, but, as someone else pointed out, you could also buy the button and get a free card on the turn if you need it.

The combination of these things makes this a raise for me.
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: An Almost Perfect Flop...How do you play this KQs?

Pump the pot - Cap if possible.

The SB and BB already have money in, and most likely won't fold for another bet. IF MP drops, so be it, but you get the button, and a possible free card.

Nut Flush draws should always be primmed - especially when you a pair a portion of it.

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