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Old 02-20-2004, 12:21 PM
Jacques Jacques is offline
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Default Showdown Holdem odds

I am looking for a chart with winning proabilities for showdown holdem. I already have software to simulate the odds for specific cards (e.g. A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] vs. A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) but a more useful information for me would be AKs vs. AQo. This can be computed using a few scenarios and basic probability of each cases. But I'd rather save the several hours it would take me to get all of those numbers in a format more useful for practical play.

Anybody has seen a chart like that online or simulator that allows to skip the multiple simulations for each case?

Thanks!
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Old 02-20-2004, 03:16 PM
Chris Villalobos Chris Villalobos is offline
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

What's the question, and why does it matter?

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Old 02-20-2004, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

Poker Stove is great.

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Old 02-20-2004, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

You can just use the hand calculator at

http://twodimes.net/poker/
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Old 02-22-2004, 09:18 PM
Wee Stinker Wee Stinker is offline
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

Both Pokerstove and twodimes are excellent and free.

You could also try www.pokalyzer.com

You get a free 30 day unrestricted trial after which registration is $29. It has a heads up section that shows you how every possible starting hand performs against every other possible starting hand.





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Old 02-23-2004, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

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You can just use the hand calculator at

http://twodimes.net/poker/

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I think you guys are missing the point of the question. twodimes, etc, require you to input a suit, so you have to go through all the permutations to get the results for AKo vs AKs, which represents many equivalent scenarios.

He's asking for a calculator that understands the preflop equivalencies of "suited" vs "not suited", rather than having to enumerate the actual suits.

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Old 02-23-2004, 05:39 AM
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Default Re: Showdown Holdem odds

pokercalculator can do this (specify a range of hands such as AKs or AKs+AK+AQs, for example), as can pokerstove, though neither one is real smart about it.
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Old 02-23-2004, 09:17 AM
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...though neither one is real smart about it.

Could you please explain what you mean? Thanks.

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Old 02-25-2004, 01:01 PM
M.B.E. M.B.E. is offline
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Default Karlson\'s chart of holdem matchups

Here is what you're looking for:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...?Number=393366
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Old 02-25-2004, 01:53 PM
M.B.E. M.B.E. is offline
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Default holdem showdowns

Also, in case you're not aware of them, the tables at GoCee.com are interesting:

http://gocee.com/poker/HE_Value.htm

http://gocee.com/poker/pokerule.htm
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