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Old 12-06-2005, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

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My natural reaction to not hitting flops is to tighten up, not loosen up. If you loosen up in search of hitting a flop, you're just giving your chips away IMO.

ScottieK

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agreed. also, that will make it seem even more like flops are not hitting. just ride it out. if your opponents aren't very good, try to see a cheap flop in position. nothings better than holding rags and flopping a monster. but only if it's cheap and you have position.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

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If 20 or 21(burn before deal) go out to a 10-handed table, you have 31 or 32 possible cards to come out on the flop. At best, only six of them pair you up.

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You do realize that it is irrelevant how many players are dealt cards.

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The specifics of the numbers or table size are irrelevant, yes...I was merely trying to make the point that it is more statistically likely that you will not hit the flop.
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

Have you checked the "hit flops" button? That could be your problem right there....

Joseph

another poster said this while playing and the other guy actually was looking for it.
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Old 12-07-2005, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

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I start playing hands like T9o aggressively from EP or MP

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It's a good thing that I'm a moderator and a learned man--or else I would have had to hunt you down and strike you.

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Give him some tough love man, he'll thank you later.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

It's not the low times that make you feel bad that are defining, it's whether you can control your loses whilest it's going on. Statsically, every single player at the table will be dealt an equal number of wins and an equal number of loses. While you're losing, minamize you loses, and while your winning, earn that buck!
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:44 AM
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Statsically, every single player at the table will be dealt an equal number of wins and an equal number of loses.


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In a hot/cold sim, sure. I think the winning players actually get shorted on their # of winning hands a bit compared to worse players. They will fold more hands that would've won than the other players. It's just that they make more than enough on those hands they stay in for (in comparison) to make up for it. Along with minimizing the losses.

Remember, the one who wins the most pots is usually a losing player.

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Old 12-09-2005, 01:31 PM
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If 20 or 21(burn before deal) go out to a 10-handed table, you have 31 or 32 possible cards to come out on the flop. At best, only six of them pair you up.

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You do realize that it is irrelevant how many players are dealt cards.

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The specifics of the numbers or table size are irrelevant, yes...I was merely trying to make the point that it is more statistically likely that you will not hit the flop.

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It changes how you define "hit".
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

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If 20 or 21(burn before deal) go out to a 10-handed table, you have 31 or 32 possible cards to come out on the flop. At best, only six of them pair you up.

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You do realize that it is irrelevant how many players are dealt cards.

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The specifics of the numbers or table size are irrelevant, yes...I was merely trying to make the point that it is more statistically likely that you will not hit the flop.

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It changes how you define "hit".

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What am I, a statistician? If I don't have a valid point, please explain. I realize that I'm butchering the math...but my point is that it is more likely you will not hit the flop, under the OP's definition, than not. Jeez.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:25 PM
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It changes how you define "hit".

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What am I, a statistician? If I don't have a valid point, please explain. I realize that I'm butchering the math...but my point is that it is more likely you will not hit the flop, under the OP's definition, than not. Jeez.

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Sorry, I guess we're referring to different contexts. Yes, it is more likely that you miss the flop than hit it. By my comment, I meant that "hitting" the flop in shorthanded games is slightly different than hitting in a full game.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Why does it seem like I never hit the flop?

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It changes how you define "hit".

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What am I, a statistician? If I don't have a valid point, please explain. I realize that I'm butchering the math...but my point is that it is more likely you will not hit the flop, under the OP's definition, than not. Jeez.

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Sorry, I guess we're referring to different contexts. Yes, it is more likely that you miss the flop than hit it. By my comment, I meant that "hitting" the flop in shorthanded games is slightly different than hitting in a full game.

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Oh...well, sure...as in...Middle pair is no good in full ring, but might be good in SH? That sort of thing?
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