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Old 10-07-2005, 10:46 PM
bjb23 bjb23 is offline
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Default 22... call this push?

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: a ( $1435 )
Seat 2: villian ( $505 )
Seat 3: hero ( $1190 )
Seat 6: b ( $3330 )
Seat 7: c ( $645 )
Seat 8: d ( $895 )
Trny:16421799 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to her0 [ Ad, 2s ]
b folds.
c folds.
d folds.
a folds.
villian is all-In [455]

hero?

villian has not pushed up until this point and has not gotten out of line. he may very well be pushing any two here but im not sure.

as always, any comments appreciated.
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

i was hoping for more votes than this. ok, so a person on this forum who plays a game which i respect made this call here whereas i thought this was a clear fold.

anyone wish to enlighten me?
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

If he's pushing any two you absolutely have to call. If you don't know that though, you can't. Call and Fold are the two options, for sure.
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Old 10-08-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

That fact that he hasn't pushed yet has got to make you think hes not pushing anytwo here. A2 isn't a dominate hand, I think your in a spot were you need to make a move, but the fact that vil. has not pushed yet makes me nervous about a call here.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:47 PM
ace_in_the_hole ace_in_the_hole is offline
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

if you are calling 355 into 605 pot, I would call. I could see him having KQ,QJ,KJ,KT here, if he has an A I guess you are going to ahve to suckout. Overall I think this is a borderline situation, but I am only a 14% ROI $33 player so I may not be good enough to give advice.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

This is a call with no reads. Villain has to fold J9s, K7, Q9s before this becomes a fold, and almost noone will fold those hands.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

so i guess my instincts were wrong... i got unlazy, did the math and found out that the pusher had to be on a top ~20% range for this call to be -ev. this seems counterintuitive to the fact that A2o is only 55% to win against a random hand.

anyway, thanks for the responses... found a leak.
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Old 10-08-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: 22... call this push?

As a side note, the equilibrium here is at around 70% pushing, 50% calling. I probably don't call enough in this situation, but I think a lot of people fold really a ridiculous amount.
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