Poor Paul McCartney

[IQ89]

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he (Paul McCartney) is arguably the best bass guitarist ever

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Jaco Pastorius must be spinning in his grave right now.

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I don't understand the sudden upwelling of "Beatles and everything related sux" threads.

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This isn't a "Beatles Suck" thread.

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Are you aware that he was in a group before Wings?

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he says "after the beatles broke up" in his post, douche.

why is everybody so excited to make the mccartney/band before wings "joke"? it's not remotely funny.

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Because, douche, people who are familiar with his music with the Beatles generally don't make such comments. And, I repeat, douche.

[IQ89]

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people who are familiar with his music with the Beatles generally don't make such comments.

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Just for the record, I think The Beatles are thee best band ever, period. Next would be Led Zeppelin, who where influenced by the beatles. How? Before the beatles, it was uncommon for performers to also be the writers of the songs they performed. You had a writer and then you had some other guy who arranged the song before the performer ever heard it. Jimmy Page was VERY inspired by how the beatles changed all that. Kinda like, "Hey, if they can do it maybe I can too." The rest is history.

My criticism of Sir Paul is basically the same as John Lennon's criticism of Elvis Presley after Elvis got out of the army. He felt that Elvis had lost "it" (except he didn't phrase it that politely). In my opinion, McCartney hasn't written a song worth listening to since Wings. If you or any body else can name a song he's written within the last 25 years that could be considered listenable (let alone heralded as undeniably great) please mention the title.

[astroglide]

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It must be tough for Paul. No longer having the ability to write a song worth listening to.

Just heard a few songs from his new album. Poor guy is still playing the same four chords, the same four chords he's been rearranging for the last 30 years. Too bad he didn't learn how to read music, and maybe take a bunch of music theory and other related classes after the Beatles broke up. He'd probably be writing some really beautiful instrumental stuff right now. But no, he's stuck doing the exact same sh** he was doing in the late 1970's. Oh well. Can't feel too sorry for him though.

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it is plainly obvious that he is crestfallen over the fact that the beatles were great, and his post-beatles output is not. you are a [censored] moron.

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it is plainly obvious that he is crestfallen over the fact that the beatles were great, and his post-beatles output is not. you are a [censored] moron.

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No he is a troll. That's why I am ignoring this user.

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which user? i'm ignoring niss now too, iq89 seems cool.

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niss

What do you want him to play? Ska? Death metal?

[jokerthief]

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Paul is a brilliant songwriter, not nececessarily a great musician. Same for Lennon.

Indy

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For a 60s rock bassist he was actually very good. His drumming was not bad either [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Lennon I agree with but Paul was very good at what he did.

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I think Lennon is very underrated as a guitarist. He came up with some very inovative chord progressions during a time where musicians were doing typical D A G simple stuff mostly. He also was inovative with his rhythms.

*edit--He also was one of the best vocalist ever.

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Just for the record, I think The Beatles are thee best band ever, period. Next would be Led Zeppelin, who where influenced by the beatles. How? Before the beatles, it was uncommon for performers to also be the writers of the songs they performed. You had a writer and then you had some other guy who arranged the song before the performer ever heard it. Jimmy Page was VERY inspired by how the beatles changed all that. Kinda like, "Hey, if they can do it maybe I can too." The rest is history.


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Just for the record, it was Buddy Holly who changed all that. He was the first white artist to write his own tunes, he also produced and co-produced his own sessions, as well as using the same 4-piece band he toured with in the studio instead of an orchestra. Although blues musicians had actually been doing this for years (as well as almost everything else in rock and roll), Holly was the first white mainstream artist to do it. It was so uncommon that Holly actually had to use pseudonyms on many of the credits to avoid problems with songwriters unions. I have 45's with the name "Hardin" on the label as songwriter (Buddy's middle name) and the description: Vocal Group With Orchestra, when it's obviously just two guitars, bass, and drums on the record. As well as all this, he also produced other acts and wrote over 10 hit records, despite dying at the age of 22.

The Beatles were, in fact, so influenced by Holly's music that McCartney said their very name was a take-off on Holly's band's name, "The Crickets."

Oh, and about the thread topic, uhh, yeah, I feel really sorry for Paul McCartney. How terrible his life must be.