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Old 09-08-2005, 01:34 AM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

I'd 3bet preflop.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

I would NOT 3 bet pre-flop and I would check raise the [censored] out of that flop most of the time.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

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I would NOT 3 bet pre-flop and I would check raise the [censored] out of that flop most of the time.

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Why?
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

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I would NOT 3 bet pre-flop and I would check raise the [censored] out of that flop most of the time.

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ditto.
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

I play the same game and I like to 3 bet this pre flop as well. It feels like the lead is giving me a lot of K and Q high flops. I maintain the lead until given a very good reason not to. Maybe I'm just better at playing with the lead than check/raising a lot of flops with this hand.

Do you guys have a convincing reason to call pre flop and check/raise a lot of flops with this hand?
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

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I would NOT 3 bet pre-flop and I would check raise the [censored] out of that flop most of the time.

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agreed, but mike is very capable of a turn bluff raise, no?
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

don't get why you didn't check-raise here on the flop. you are way ahead of his range and you can likely get him to fold on the turn with this line.


also i'd be more likely to 3bet preflop if i didnt have an ace/showdown hand. if i had a hand like K9s i need to take initiative right?
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

I see merit to both lines, i just didn't see what a flop c/r would accomplish against you except getting a little value when i am ahead. You're not the type to fold better hands in this spot very often, so i save a little when i am behind and maybe induce calldowns from some weaker KJ type hands?
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:52 AM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: Blind defense against schneids...

(when you are ahead)

say you check raise the flop with A5s...turn brick you bet he folds. you get 1BB and he sees 1 card.

if you call the flop and bet the turn he will probably call with K high and you have to check the river. he gets to see 2 cards but you win 1.5BB when he misses. (also a caveat is that if you check the river and think schneids will bluff at it you need to call if he bets---which sucks when you are behind)

so the question is, when he bets on the flop (which is 5.50SB in this case) is the pot small enough that giving him an extra .5BB worth it?
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:12 AM
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3 bet the flop or checkraise the flop.
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