3/8 ppls at table flame me. I contend this was a brilliant push.

[Big Limpin']

***** Hand History for Game 2377789337 *****
50/100 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14008935) - Sun Jul 17 07:02:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 35019 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: mrspokerprop (670)
Seat 4: illa5th (855)
Seat 5: indiakid (955)
Seat 6: Gun29 (1340)
Seat 7: cajunbeach (2085)
Seat 8: taksells (2180)
Seat 10: ryba555 (1915)
Gun29 posts small blind (25)
cajunbeach posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to illa5th [ 7c, 8c ]
taksells calls (50)
ryba555 calls (50)
mrspokerprop calls (50)
taksells: trapping hurts sometimes
illa5th raises (855) to 855
illa5th is all-In.
indiakid folds.
Gun29 folds.
cajunbeach folds.
taksells folds.
ryba555 calls (805)
Gun29: i know
mrspokerprop folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1885 with illa5th
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, Td, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Jh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1885 |
Board: [ Jc Td 9h Tc Jh ]
mrspokerprop balance 620, lost 50 (folded)
illa5th balance 1885, bet 855, collected 1885, net +1030 [ 7c 8c ] [ a straight, seven to jack -- Jc,Td,9h,8c,7c ]
indiakid balance 955, didn't bet (folded)
Gun29 balance 1315, lost 25 (folded)
cajunbeach balance 2035, lost 50 (folded)
taksells balance 2130, lost 50 (folded)
ryba555 balance 1060, lost 855 [ Ah Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and jacks -- Ah,Ad,Jc,Jh,Td ]

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sorry, but the bisonbison was broken.

Summary: Hero LP with 7 ppls left. Blinds 25/50. The pertinant stacks are all more or less the start level.

There are THREE limps to hero. THREE. ok? there is t225 of "semi dead" money up for grabs. Hero has mid-suited connectors. Hero pushes.

Hate it ? Love it?


My thoughts were ( and i really did think it out, it was a level higher than i usually play)....well, if they are legitimately limping, theres a very good chance i pick up t225 uncontested. And, if i am called, i am prolly still 35% equity against a AQ+, JJ+ range. If someone wants to crunch the numbers, that would be great, but my gut told me that i'd be uncontested 3/4 times, and when called, id still be only a 2:1 dog.

BL'

[Big Limpin']

Also, please dont be results oriented. Yeah, ok, so he flipped AA on a check r/r. That ain't the norm. What im asking is, on average, when 3 limps to you in LP, and you have the famed mid-suited connectors, is that a reasonable push? Meaning, what is the chance you just take it, and when called, what equity do you have against AK/overpairs.

[AbelM]

I like it [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I would like it better though when you're stack is around the 10 BB range, which would make it seem more legit. Now it's quite an obvious bluff and especially at the lower limits you might get one of those "i just don't believe you" callers.

I agree that a mid suited connector is exactly the kind of hand to make a move like this with.

[Freudian]

If you are going to do something like this 87s is a pretty good hand to do it with.

Besides when they start complaining you can always pull out the "but it was sooted" defense.

[Zelcious]

What buyin is this ?
The main problem with this play is not someone limping with AA, it is someone with low or medium pair and decides it's time to gamble with it when you move all in. This will happen quite often, atleast in my experience, especially with 3 limpers. If you're lucky then it's a race otherwise... I could also se AJ AT KQ KJs QJs calling here.
On the other hand, 225 is pretty much compared with your chipstack.

[Big Limpin']

Holla , yeah it did prolly look bluffy, but maybe not so much as it looks at first glance. Hero has 17BB., and to be perfectly honest, i push AK, and AQ in this siutation too. Prolly too much overbet to waste on AA, but still, theres some legit hands i would play in the same manner.

But yeah, i "agree with your agreeement", that 76s and the like are the best hands to take in against the likely calling range.

What does your gut say the probability of being called here is? Mine said 25%. You think lower or higher?

[Big Limpin']

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If you are going to do something like this 87s is a pretty good hand to do it with.

Besides when they start complaining you can always pull out the "but it was sooted" defense.

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It is, and i did. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Big Limpin']

OK, it was a 109. I really hope that that counterfeits what you said, otherwise, well, um, you know. I get flamey. And im always happy to get responses to my posts, so...


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The main problem with this play [...]is someone with low or medium pair and decides it's time to gamble with it when you move all in.

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No, if they "just wanted to race", would they have limped? Maybe if they were UTG, but certainly the 2nd two limpers arent in a "just want to race and gamboool" mindset.

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I could also se AJ AT KQ KJs QJs calling here.


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I cant. AK and >JJ are the only hand i can see limp/calling. I am willing to be corrected, however, i admit i dont play this level often.

[AbelM]

Dunno, depends heavily on the table.

[runner4life7]

This looks like a PVS to me and I like it, I think it might even be +EV with any 2 as long as you arent playing the 11s or 22s