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Old 07-14-2005, 03:09 PM
TakeMeToTheRiver TakeMeToTheRiver is offline
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Default Re: Public Protest....and then

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Can I assume that your group has a permit.


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I will assume that you don't know what a Libertarian is... it would be pretty ironic if a Libertarian actually applied for a permit to hold a rally or protest.
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: Public Protest....and then

Permits?! We ain't got no permits...

We don't need no permits.

I don't have to show you any STINKING PERMITS!

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Old 07-14-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

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So is anyone actually going? I'm thinking about grabbing my camera and going down to watch/take photos.

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I'm going. For ID: 6'0, 250 lbs, black nylon fanny pack, see avatar. Say sup bro.

PS: I haven't even ever played at a NYC B&M, although I would like to in the future.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

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I'm thinking about grabbing my camera and going down to watch/take photos.

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[]That[/b] shouldn't make any poker players nervous or anything.

Think the opening of "The Godfather" movie
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

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Like it or not its illegal in NYC.

Should the drug dealers get their confiscated money or cars or homes back?

Greg

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yes. seizure of all property "associated with" or "touched by" a drug offense is an outrageously overreaching punishment. one crime, one sentence, same for everyone. total forfeiture is authoritarianism.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:09 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

Argh, I couldn't get out on time. I'm afraid it might be over by the time I could get there. (7:00) Sorry I missed it. Hope it went well.
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Old 07-15-2005, 10:25 AM
ronniejames ronniejames is offline
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

However many times the issue is explained, some people remain obtuse. Playing poker in NYC is NOT ILLEGAL. Let that sink in. The police keep saying it--believe them!

Imagine, as a thought exercise, you were playing on the night the clubs were raided. You approach a cop and say: Officer, I have eight hundred sixty-three dollars in chips. May I have a receipt for my money?

You are making a perfectly reasonable request. As you have committed no crime--and nobody thinks you have--the confiscation of your cash is highly unreasonable. But they do have guns and you can't stop them. If their actions were legitimate, why on earth would they refuse to issue receipts? Any transaction in which the party surrendering some form of property can't routinely obtain a receipt is suspect. We can assume that someone is getting screwed.

It blows my mind that poker players can continually overlook and--inexplicably--attempt to rationalize away these outrages.

Cops are stealing your money. Why can't you grasp that?
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: New York Poker Players To Protest NYPD Raids

"Cops are stealing your money. Why can't you grasp that?"

As to why these raids occur, that is the reason: money. For the NYPD or individual officers. The only reason the police do these raids is for the cash. The NYPD will either raid your club or extract payments voluntarily.
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