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#22
06-22-2005, 12:03 AM
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Re: Play this hand from the button? Results
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Pop quiz: pretend you played it. [ QUOTE ] Flop: (t180) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t30</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero... [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] The solid arguments for raising are: 1. a bet of 30 is pretty damn weak, a raise might take this down. 2. raising disguises your hand when you hit 3. raising buys you free cards and such when you have nice position like this. 
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#23
06-22-2005, 12:51 AM
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Re: Play this hand from the button? Results
OK...it's a 932 flop, with a minbet and a call to you in a decent pot and no indication anyone caught any of that. It's also a 5+1 which means that you will get a turn free card when you raise roughly 98% of the time with a 2% margin of error. Oh, and you have 12 outs to the nuts (65 doesn't count, thx) and 3 aces that probably count for at least 2 more.
This is a clear raise (I'd make it about 150) and not at all close*, because on top of everything else it'll be enough to fold everything up to a 9 and quite possibly some nines. It's hands like these you have to learn to play strong to succeed higher. Holla. *eh, it might be close if you knew they'd minbet the turn too. You don't, so you raise.
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#24
06-22-2005, 01:03 AM
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Re: Play this hand from the button? Results
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[ QUOTE ] Pop quiz: pretend you played it. [ QUOTE ] Flop: (t180) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t30</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero... [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] The solid arguments for raising are: 1. a bet of 30 is pretty damn weak, a raise might take this down. 2. raising disguises your hand when you hit 3. raising buys you free cards and such when you have nice position like this. [/ QUOTE ] Wuwei, you're like a 9th grader sitting in a 3rd grade class. Scram! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Good analysis though. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Good post Adanthar. Good reason not to split this forum in two. Scuba
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#26
06-22-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: Play this hand from the button?
1) After 3 limpers on level 2 in a game at 22 or lower, I'm calling with A5s on the button every time. EASY CALL.
2) Depending on reads (hard since it's L2) on that flop I would either call or raise, but if I raised, it would be a little more than 150. Probably 200 since the game is a 5+1. I'd be fine with taking the pot now, but a raise to 200 lets these fish know that I'm not playing around. Sometimes I would just call here though if I thought any of my opponents were very tricky or aggressive. ***This is what bugs me about the when people talk about the lower level buy-in SNGs. People rightfully say that most of the players suck but then they are afraid to call A5s on the button after 3 limpers on level 2??? Your opponents suck, this hand has the potential to triple you up at low risk!
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#27
06-22-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: Play this hand from the button?
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***This is what bugs me about the when people talk about the lower level buy-in SNGs. People rightfully say that most of the players suck but then they are afraid to call A5s on the button after 3 limpers on level 2??? Your opponents suck, this hand has the potential to triple you up at low risk! [/ QUOTE ] RE: The paradox Especially at the $6s I think you can almost have +ROI by starting the games and going to sleep, but on the other hand you should be able to really get paid off when you get into pots cheaply and hit something. I don't know what's best, but it may well be different in the $6s than the $11s. I think those two are the most different of all adjascent buyins.
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#28
06-22-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Play this hand from the button?
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Especially at the $6s I think you can almost have +ROI by starting the games and going to sleep, but on the other hand you should be able to really get paid off when you get into pots cheaply and hit something. [/ QUOTE ] I have fallen asleep twice in the last month, and finished third both times. GG
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#29
06-22-2005, 12:39 PM
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Re: Play this hand from the button?
1) I call and concurr with Andanthar that it's being the 5+1s makes this a nobrainer because you can get paid off.
2) I am not sure if a flop raise is a good idea here. There is some risk that you are up against a mistakenly slow played set (itīs the 5+1s!) and you'll get reraised or called (it's the 5+1s!). If called, you might not have the odds for the river when the set goes all-in on the turn. I go with the easy poker rule that you should not raise a hand where you hate to be reraised. I'd preserve the free shot here.
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#30
06-22-2005, 12:48 PM
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Re: Play this hand from the button?
I know what you're saying about just calling (since it's a 5+1), sometimes I would just call myself. Your comment about being called more in a 5 is well taken, that's why I would tend to raise to 200 instead of 150. That should be enough to get their attention. But if I'm re-raised, I'm not giving this hand up after raising the flop. I'm going all the way with it. Way too many outs...
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