Another $%@* KK post

[beeyjay]

i bet 150. if its a 33 hell probably throw away a real weak ace. lower than that i dont really know. for what its worth i dont think he even hit the ace.

[Rosencrantz1]

Just a question, since I'm really just starting my SnG education:

Is a 8xBB raise recommended here? My own instinct would have been a 4-5xBB raise PF.

Thanks.

[UMTerp]

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Just a question, since I'm really just starting my SnG education:

Is a 8xBB raise recommended here? My own instinct would have been a 4-5xBB raise PF.

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At anything below $50's, the 8xBB raise isn't bad - you'll typically still get a caller or two, and your two goals preflop are obviously to get it down to 2- or 3-handed, and to juice the pot. You'll also be able to narrow their potential holdings down a bit. Your typical opponent at these levels often will see no difference between the 4xBB riase and the 8xBB raise, so you might as well exploit that.

At $50's and above, nobody's calling an 8xBB bet without JJ or AK, and your 4x or 5xBB is more optimal.

Good question.

[sng-sam]

a: buy in was 20+2 ( I moved up thanks to yall)
b: I did bet pot and he did fold ( i just didn't enjoy it)
c: 8x BB PFR was due to Irie's (i think) suggestion to bet 3-4x BB +(2xlimpers)

[Rosencrantz1]

Thx.

[Noel Montgomery]

Fire a 2/3 pot bet and fold to a reraise.

You cannot check here. There's a very good chance that the button has no Ace, and checking gives him the pot (if he knows what he's doing). Your preflop raise looks a lot like AK anyways, so you want him to keep believing that.

He's quite likely to be playing 77, 88, 99.

[Noel Montgomery]

IMO a pot bet is too much here even with the flush draw. Betting 2/3 pot still gives the draw incorrect odds to call and saves you some if he reraises with an Ace.

If you bet 2/3 and he calls with the draw you should be happy, because he's playing incorrect odds.

If a blank comes on the turn, now there's a decision to be made. I push. If he has an ace, so be it...but he didn't play it well. He certainly should have reraised the flop with the draw on the board.

[Scuba Chuck]

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