JJ....and an unknown pushes.....

mtdoak · #1 04-29-2005, 12:20 PM

I'm a little lower than average in chips, tables just changed. Blinds are still small.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t1605)
CO (t2248)
Button (t1625)
SB (t6911)
BB (t389)
Hero (t1323)
UTG+1 (t1360)
UTG+2 (t4855)
MP1 (t1970)
MP2 (t2494)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero raises to t90, Button (who just sat down and has the hero covered) pushes....hero??

Ricardido · #2 04-29-2005, 12:36 PM

IMHO this is an easy fold.. what do you think your majorly ahead of here? small PP possibly but i doubt two under cards. Villain likely has AK, AQ, AA, KK and is looking to gambool. At best you are probably a coinflip. Find a better spot to take his chips methinks.

tiger7210 · #3 04-29-2005, 01:08 PM

a difficult decision with no read but I would say you are ahead more often than not but more than likely in a coin flip situation.

Early in a tournamant I will normally make this call to try and build a nice stack and if he has a bigger pair so be it.

Just seen 1 too many fish make this play with hands as bad as ATs or a small pair to fold JJ's here.

A buddy of mine had a very similar situation last night when he raised UTG with KK's and was called then reraised all in. Obviously he called, but the pusher had AJs.

schwza · #4 04-29-2005, 04:10 PM

i would call. people rarely make these gigantic overbets with AA/KK.

Noel Montgomery · #5 04-29-2005, 04:53 PM

My percentages:

He has A/K at 40%. 'Cause it's better to be all in...
He has 8/8 - 10/10 at 35%.
He has Q/Q - A/A at 23%.
He's stone cold raisin' at 2%. This is just an extremely rare move in this situation.

I may be way off with these guesses, but that's how I'd sum it up. I'd call.

TheNoodleMan · #6 04-29-2005, 05:03 PM

this is an easy fold. It is too early in the tourney to go broke with JJ. why risk you tourney life at this point?

schwza · #7 04-29-2005, 05:04 PM

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this is an easy fold. It is too early in the tourney to go broke with JJ. why risk you tourney life at this point?

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you need to make a more convincing argument than that.

Noel Montgomery · #8 04-29-2005, 05:15 PM

Yes, it's much better to bo broke with J/J later on in the tournament...

I risk my tourney life repeatedly in the course of a game.

Actually, the more I think about this hand, the more I like the call. He wants me gone, and that's good enough for me to stay. The only hand that really scares me is Q/Q. But, just think! If he has Queens and you call with Jacks and then hit a miracle Jack, you get to type "I could feel a Jack coming!"

Pulplife · #9 04-29-2005, 07:48 PM

I call. As it has already been said before, the range of hands is very wide in the fishy portion of a low buy-in tourney. One poster said he'd only be afraid of QQ. I feel the same way.

I am making the assumption that it is a low buy-in [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BTW, if this were a deep-stacked live event, I would fold with no reads. But this is an online fast, fast, fast play tourney. I look for these spots to accumulate chips early.