Trapping A Donk with a Donk.....

[PokerBob]

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-I might drive out BB on a hand he'd call 1 more with but not two

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BB will stay interested unless he has pure garbage regardless of what you do on the flop, as he is getting at least 9:1 on all of his calls.

[Number4]

Pre-flop - raise is good here.

Flop - I just call here, with the intention of . . .

Turn - check-raise. It sounds like you had a good read on the 2 other players in this hand, but even a strong hand may only call a bet if you lead out on the turn. It ended up working nicely, but I typically cr on this turn.

River - I am more scared of BB here than CO. I'm tempted to check/call, but I feel like I may be leaving some bets on the table with that play. If you do bet out, I would definitely fold if it gets 3-bet back to you. As for one raise, I don't know - interested to see what others would have done.

[meep_42]

I don't see the point in not 3-betting the flop if you're going to lead the turn anyway. Is it really more likely AA will raise again if you don't 3-bet, but still lead?

I think you need to stop and c/r or put the pedal to the metal. With BB between you, I like pedal to the metal the whole way.

-d

[MoreWineII]

I boldly defy the monsters under the bed and bet...and call a raise. These are two donks, you say. They could have anything and they'll call. BB could have caught up on the end. Then again, maybe he has a pair of tens and will call.

[crunchy1]

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I boldly defy the monsters under the bed and bet...and call a raise.

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I agree. I really felt that I was still ahead here. If BB had a draw I really think he would've pumped it - at least on the flop.

What about 2 raises on the river if the 3-bet comes from CO?

[QTip]

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If BB had a draw I really think he would've pumped it - at least on the flop.

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I highly, highly doubt it.

[Redeye]

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On the scale of really really really bad cards for you, the 8 might just be #1. I disagree, you are going to be raised by a hand that beats you too much to bet here. I think this is a simple check and call if its not two back to you.


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I don't know if this has been answered yet, but the river is an easy value bet. Its easy to put CO on a big pair here, so the river card definately didn't help him. He's not raising the turn with something like AKs. BB could be calling down with any part of the board.

[wrto4556]

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I boldly defy the monsters under the bed and bet...and call a raise. These are two donks, you say. They could have anything and they'll call. BB could have caught up on the end. Then again, maybe he has a pair of tens and will call.

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I bet, too. But I think you can fold to a raise.

EDIT: Unless it's heads up.

[Redeye]

The PF 3-bet is probably fine as long as you know CO isn't a 1% pfr guy, if so I would've just called.

I think you probably should've 3-bet the flop. There is no guarantee that you'll get two bets on the turn, especially if a spade falls. BB is rediculously loose, if he has any pair or part of this board, he's going to call two more.

The river, as I said in another post, is a really easy value bet. You have two super loose players, you need to relentlessly value bet against these types of players. CO has a big pair, there is no way he has AKs or AQs after that turn raise. (Or I should say I'll be really surprise). BB is so loose he could have two blank cards and still call the river. A bet here is a must, IMO. I'm also calling a raise.

[eleventy]

BB probably has J7o or something retarded like that.