General QQ question

[NoWorry]

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So the alternative is...?

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Defining your hand is never good because it allows your opponents to make fewer mistakes. You want to define their hands.

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Like Soah, you are picking on just a portion of my response and getting side-tracked from the central question. Okay, you both do not want to define your hand in this situation. (I disagree, because against this player I want to know where I stand before I shove in a lot more chips. And me defining my hand forces him to then respond which defines his hand further.)

However, returning to the central question here, there is no situation in which I would just call with QQ because I can't think of a way to make this profitable in the long run. This approach will minimize my wins when my opponent does not have AA or KK (which will be most of the time). And I will lose far more when he does and I get a raggedy flop and believe my QQ is best.

Besides, I don't play too many players who WON'T just 3-bet an AA or KK. So QQ then becomes a relatively worthless hand for me against any 3-bet. But if I re-raise with it, I force my opponent to then define his hand in response.

Two other important observations here:

1. AA and KK are different hands for my opponent and when he has KK and I re-raise, he has to worry about me having AA which slows him down a bit.

2. Even in the worst case scenario, QQ is still around 18% to win against the higher pair. [I know, because it beat my AA yesterday for a $450 pot [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] ]

[soah]

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This approach will minimize my wins when my opponent does not have AA or KK (which will be most of the time).

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And making your opponent fold preflop is supposed to maximize your wins somehow?

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And I will lose far more when he does and I get a raggedy flop and believe my QQ is best.

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You're going to lose LESS by putting MORE money in preflop??

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Besides, I don't play too many players who WON'T just 3-bet an AA or KK.

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I bet I can find plenty of them.

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So QQ then becomes a relatively worthless hand for me against any 3-bet. But if I re-raise with it, I force my opponent to then define his hand in response.

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So by this plan, you put lots of money preflop, and never even give yourself a chance to see a good flop.

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1. AA and KK are different hands for my opponent and when he has KK and I re-raise, he has to worry about me having AA which slows him down a bit.

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You just told us 10 seconds ago that there aren't many players who aren't threebetting you with KK.

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Even in the worst case scenario, QQ is still around 18% to win against the higher pair. [I know, because it beat my AA yesterday for a $450 pot [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] ]

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If you get blown off your hand preflop then your chances of winning are zero.

[NoWorry]

Beginning to sound like an argument instead of a discussion. Let's agree to disagree?

[AncientPC]

Based on some of your other posts, your play is a bit too tight-weak in my opinion. Of course, it's just that, my opinion.

If playing how you do works out for you and your opponents then great.

[NoWorry]

I like to think tight-aggressive, but [shrug].