ultimatebet 100 cancelled because they missed gaurantee?

[kirisim]

The UltimateBet $100 tourney with a $17000 gaurantee had only 57 entrants. It appears to have disappeared. Seems kinda shady.

[Potowame]

same thing on the 25K rebuy last week.

[CardSharpCook]

the 17K garun has a horrible track record. It rarely starts. I noticed tonight that like 45 minutes before it was to start, no new entries signed up. They just have serious problems on UB. Not trying to cheat us.

CSC

[M.B.E.]

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The UltimateBet $100 tourney with a $17000 gaurantee had only 57 entrants. It appears to have disappeared. Seems kinda shady.

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It makes them look cheap, but it isn't a deceptive practice. They didn't guarantee that the tourney would run, just that if it did run it would have a prize pool of at least $17K.

[TheTimeIsUp]

***** Hand History for Game 1826080127 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:10891535 Level:12 Blinds (500/1000) - Friday, April 01, 01:03:00 EDT 2005
Table Super Thursday(293040) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: ItTakesTwo ( $14576 )
Seat 3: hersom ( $23312 )
Seat 4: is1977 ( $10160 )
Seat 6: TL2004 ( $22282 )
Seat 7: LuckyBeano ( $18254 )
Seat 10: JJProdigy ( $17880 )
Seat 1: OLD_TABLE ( $37944 )
Seat 8: snethan ( $3124 )
Trny:10891535 Level:12
Blinds (500/1000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JJProdigy [ Tc As ]
hersom raises [2000].
is1977 folds.
TL2004 folds.
LuckyBeano folds.
snethan folds.
JJProdigy calls [2000].
OLD_TABLE folds.
ItTakesTwo folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 5d, Ad ]
hersom checks.
JJProdigy bets [2500].
hersom calls [2500].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
hersom checks.
JJProdigy bets [6700].
hersom calls [6700].
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
hersom is all-In [12112]
JJProdigy is all-In [6680]
hersom shows [ 9d, Qd ] a flush, ace high.
JJProdigy shows [ Tc, As ] two pairs, aces and tens.
Player JJProdigy finished in 64 place and received $383.4
hersom wins 5432 chips from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high.
hersom wins 37260 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
wow
JJProdigy has left the table.

[skoal2k4]

so they didn't cancel it?

[Rushmore]

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the 17K garun has a horrible track record. It rarely starts. I noticed tonight that like 45 minutes before it was to start, no new entries signed up. They just have serious problems on UB. Not trying to cheat us.


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I don't mean to be obtuse, but if they take down tournaments because they miss the guarantee, how is that NOT cheating us?

I love the site, and play there daily. That doesn't mean that blatant bullshit like this should be tolerated.

[Rushmore]

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It makes them look cheap, but it isn't a deceptive practice. They didn't guarantee that the tourney would run, just that if it did run it would have a prize pool of at least $17K.

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Woah! Hold on a second!

Maybe I have misunderstood all of this time. I was under the impression that the point of guaranteed tournaments was that the site was saying "Come on down and play--we're guaranteeing $xyz no matter HOW many people show up."

Previous to this moment, it had not occurred to me that they might actually be "guaranteeing" uh, nothing.

You're saying that the point of a "guarantee" is what--an estimate of the prize pool, should they decide to run the tournament?

Hey everyone! Come on over to my place on Sunday! I'm having a barbeque featuring the finest Argentinian grass-fed beef the world has ever seen! I mean, IF I actually decide to have the barbeque.

Then, you show up at the address I give you, and it's an abandoned transgender Montessori school.

Wtf?

[kirisim]

I agree with everything Rushmore said. That's the whole point of guarantees.

I thought it was extremely irritating. No message, no email. The tournament just disappeared from the lobby. I was frantically trying to find it for a few minutes.

[Vetstadium]

This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode when he tells the rental car agency when his car is not there "That's what the reservation is for to reserve the car". What good is a guarantee if they cancel it that is just WRONG. I do play at UBet usually the $33 multi's have had good success there but that is def a bad move on there part cancelling theses.