Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > One-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: Assuming no one wants to raise, do you...
Fold 5 14.29%
Call 30 85.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 03-22-2005, 01:57 PM
curtains curtains is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 240
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

It's just funny, I read like 3 lines in succession ending with that question! I think it's stolen from David Sklansky or something?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-22-2005, 02:09 PM
yecul yecul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 133
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

This would have to be a lower percentage of my chipstack before I made the call. If I'm at 1500+ then I'd probably call if I thought he had any two.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-22-2005, 04:16 PM
go fish go fish is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 20
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

I've only been looking at these forums for a week, and I already think that it would be viable for an acronym to be used in place of "Do you see why?":
DYSW?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-22-2005, 05:52 PM
bball904 bball904 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 8
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

[ QUOTE ]
Why would you willing give up your chip position on a coinflip here? I would much prefer to risk giving up my chip position when I am the aggressor, not the caller. Do you see why?

[/ QUOTE ]

I absolutely see why. Typically, I would not make this call with T7s. However, the point of my post was that given the somewhat bizarre chip stacks at the table, you are not giving up much in terms of chip position for better than 2:1 odds. More than likely with 6 left and only T989, you will be putting yourself in a win or finish OOTM hand at some point anyway. Why not give yourself a 2nd chance to win a hand. Another difference from your thinking is that I certainly would be less inclined to make the call with 4 left and T7s. I wouldn't expect someone who preaches folding 88 in an unraised pot to understand that level of thinking. DYSW?

Another minor positive with calling in this situation is that it may deter someone from making a steal attempt at your blind after making this call.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:14 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 1-table tournaments
Posts: 1,537
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't expect someone who preaches folding 88 in an unraised pot to understand that level of thinking. DYSW?


[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm. What's the reason for taking pot shots at me? Did I offend you? Have I insulted you? Did I do something that I should know about?

Second of all, it's pretty ballsy of you to take pot shots at me considering the poll at the beginning reflecting opinions to the contrary, and other notable posters sharing my opinion.

So be a man, what's the reason for the pot shot? I'm calling you on the floor for it.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:17 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 453
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

In the pot : 344 + 100 + 50=494, amount needed to call:344-100=244...I call..he has a third of ur stack, put urself in his shoes he clearly wants u to fold, u cant do him that favor.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hokie Country
Posts: 4,030
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

I fold, its probably pretty close EV wise and I'd rather not put in almost a 1/3 of my stack while behind when you have pretty good relative chip position. Give me about 1200-1300 chips and I probably call.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:22 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hokie Country
Posts: 4,030
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

[ QUOTE ]

If you really put this guy on any 2 cards, you should call here.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:24 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 453
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

youll have 1200-1300 chips when u make the call. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-22-2005, 06:27 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hokie Country
Posts: 4,030
Default Re: Who calls in this scenario?

[ QUOTE ]
youll have 1200-1300 chips when u make the call. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Some times, most of the time you end up with about 600. I think the difference between 850 and 600 is more so than the difference between 850 and 1200 given the current chip stacks. So I'm happy not to gamble here.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.