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Old 03-11-2005, 11:27 AM
zheka zheka is offline
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Default How to get paid?


$50+5 Party. No reads.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t475)
Hero (t1900)
CO (t1800)
Button (t930)
SB (t505)
BB (t2735)
UTG (t680)
UTG+1 (t975)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t95, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t95.

Flop: (t450) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???
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Old 03-11-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: How to get paid?

Check.

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Old 03-11-2005, 11:59 AM
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Check and let someone make a hand.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:04 PM
Ryan527h Ryan527h is offline
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[ QUOTE ]

$50+5 Party. No reads.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

MP1 (t475)
Hero (t1900)
CO (t1800)
Button (t930)
SB (t505)
BB (t2735)
UTG (t680)
UTG+1 (t975)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t95, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t95.

Flop: (t450) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah check, you have a 'made hand.' Try to let them bet into you.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:08 PM
jah0550 jah0550 is offline
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I disagree with the check. I make a very small bet at the pot(maybe 50 or so). The trick is to severly underbet the pot, so they might try to play back at you. I've been trying this strategy lately and it's been working well, but I only play the $30s and $20s, so what do I know?
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:12 PM
Ryan527h Ryan527h is offline
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I disagree with the check. I make a very small bet at the pot(maybe 50 or so). The trick is to severly underbet the pot, so they might try to play back at you. I've been trying this strategy lately and it's been working well, but I only play the $30s and $20s, so what do I know?

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with you to some extent usually depends on the players in the pot, if they are tight or loose, cause some people fold when they are getting 10:1 odds. Sometimes min raising makes you look strong if you are a generally aggressive player. It's all circumstansial, most of the time I check there. But getting more money in the pot earlier never hurt anyone.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:13 PM
SuitedSixes SuitedSixes is offline
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I disagree with the check. I make a very small bet at the pot(maybe 50 or so). The trick is to severly underbet the pot, so they might try to play back at you. I've been trying this strategy lately and it's been working well, but I only play the $30s and $20s, so what do I know?

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I agree. At the lower levels this works. Min-bet and any monkey with a diamond, ace, four, five, or Draw Two will call you (maybe even raise you). Those who advocate checking are correct but probably play at higher levels with more highly evolved fishes.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:17 PM
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I disagree with the check. I make a very small bet at the pot(maybe 50 or so). The trick is to severly underbet the pot, so they might try to play back at you. I've been trying this strategy lately and it's been working well, but I only play the $30s and $20s, so what do I know?

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I agree. At the lower levels this works. Min-bet and any monkey with a diamond, ace, four, five, or Draw Two will call you (maybe even raise you). Those who advocate checking are correct but probably play at higher levels with more highly evolved fishes.

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Agreed. This old saw rarely works at higher limits, but is quite effective at lower ones.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: How to get paid?

I like this line against very aggressive players, sometimes.

With this board I think you have to check. Too scary for someone who doesn't have the flush. Maybe he has one diamond and will end up betting.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: How to get paid?

I definately don't play the 50s so my responce is as much a question as a comment.

That said I think I would bet 1/3 to 1/2 the pot here. My reasoning is this, they should be more advanced fish!!! what do you think they called with? my guess is that at least one has an over pair and might well checkraise. Additionally you have the advantage that your bet will look like a continuation bet and may well be called.

as usual these are just my thought and I would love to hear what others think of my analysis.

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