QJo, River help

Pawtucket Pat · #1 02-16-2005, 01:45 PM

This hand was a couple weeks ago, but I remember MP1 being fairly solid. It was a high VPIP table though. The river is my biggest concern, but comments welcome for all streets. Thanks.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (4 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

QTip · #2 02-16-2005, 01:50 PM

I believe I would have raise the flop here to get some info (not only on MP1, but the rest of the field) and possibly a free card. If MP1 cames back with a RR, he's got a least a spade..maybe the Ace.

Hard to say what the turn may have been like after the a flop raise.

River...spew chips. He doesn't have a straight flush since you have the J, and I'm not giving him credit for KK.

einbert · #3 02-16-2005, 01:52 PM

Why not threebet the turn? The only hands that beat you are Spade Spade and KQ/AQ. AQ definitely raises PF, KQ might raise or might just call so it's possible. If I were you I wouldn't want to give the A:spades: a free card.

I don't see why you are concerned about the river. I cap this river every single time, the only hand that beats you is KQ (KK would certainly have raised PF if MP1 is solid). Cap it up, you're ahead almost every time here.

QTip · #4 02-16-2005, 02:00 PM

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Fat Nicky · #5 02-16-2005, 02:07 PM

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Pawtucket Pat · #6 02-16-2005, 02:11 PM

Good point, I like the turn 3-bet. I called the flop looking for overcalls, which was probably weak because giving the As a free is a big mistake. I feel like this was too passive the whole, the river is probably the best street now that I'm looking at it again.

2planka · #7 02-16-2005, 02:11 PM

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Pawtucket Pat · #8 02-16-2005, 02:25 PM

can someone try it now for me?

QTip · #9 02-16-2005, 02:31 PM

not you...einbert...

QTip · #10 02-16-2005, 02:33 PM

A flop raise is NEVER going to drive out the Ace of spades on this flop. I was thinking more like driving out Kx.