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Old 01-11-2005, 01:44 AM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default How bad is this AKo play?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

CO (t1990)
Button (t775)
SB (t970)
Hero (t1010)
UTG (t1205)
UTG+1 (t530)
MP1 (t695)
MP2 (t825)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t100, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls t200.

Flop: (t725) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP2 calls t250.

Turn: (t1225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t1225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: t1225
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Old 01-11-2005, 02:51 AM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

Your preflop raise makes it a $200 call into a $525 pot for UTG, and a $200 call into a $725 pot for MP2. Not to mention the relatively likely chance that UTG may re-raise you.

You are building a very big pot and pricing everybody in. Once you do that, you have to push on the flop if you miss.

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Old 01-11-2005, 02:57 AM
goldseraph goldseraph is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

I don't like the raise to 300 preflop. This early in a tourny, playing a drawing hand this aggressive can be a bad move. If someone is concealing a big pocket pair they are likely to reraise you all in and you will be putting your tourny on the line with a coinflip or worse. There is no point doing that so early, you're wanting to survive. I would have just called the 100 and see if you hit an A or K, and then you can get away from the hand cheaply if you have to. You wilted after the flop etc too, you showed great strength with a 3x reraise PF, then you bet only 250 which likely gives them pot odds to call. Then you just checked the rest of the way, basically giving up on the hand. If you're going to raise that much you have to push post flop if you dont hit, hoping they also didnt hit and will wilt.
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:09 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

Push preflop.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:02 AM
rjb03 rjb03 is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

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Push preflop.

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Agreed.
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:40 AM
rachelwxm rachelwxm is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

I don't like push with 20bb with AK here, but a decent raise would commit too many chips, so I'd push PF.
2nd choice is call.

My general rule is that if a standard PF raise cost me 1/3 of my chips, I would push. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-11-2005, 12:19 PM
ColdestCall ColdestCall is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

This is a fairly rare situation where I would play for a check raise. It only costs 50 preflop to see if you hit anything. If you do, you check and very likely will see a bet from the original raiser or the cold caller. You can then play back. I think it is too early to push, or to commit a lot of your chips perflop with a drawing hand when you won't know where you stand if you miss the flop.
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:49 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this AKo play?

Thanks very much for all of the advice. I hated absolutely everything about this hand, except for the checks on the turn and the river. Normally all of my chips would be going in on the turn, and the wimping out here allowed me to keep enough chips to come back and win the tournamnet. I'll try not to put myself in such a terrible position again.

Thanks!
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