99 v a lot of Aggression Part 1 (pre flop)

[blackaces13]

PP .5/1 loose game for the most part with spots of aggression. A lot of action at this table up to and including this point.

I get 99 UTG+1 and decide to just call.

UTG calls, I call, some folds and then a fairly loose and unpredictable raiser (Axs, pockets 6's, suited connectors) RAISES, tight raiser to his left Re-RAISES, UTG calls 2 more cold, my move...

Do I see this flop 4 ways for 2 more bets? I don't know if the tight raiser is sophisticated enough to try an isolation raise with position or if he just has a monster hand but I suspect the latter. This hand could very possibly be capped by the loose raiser now as he may view the re-raise as an insult to his manhood and I don't like the idea of paying 3 more bets to see how my 9's like the flop. Should I wait for a better spot to get involved or just call with my pretty good pocket pair?

[itsmesteve]

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I don't know if the tight raiser is sophisticated enough to try an isolation raise with position or if he just has a monster hand but I suspect the latter .
This hand could very possibly be capped by the loose raiser now as he may view the re-raise as an insult to his manhood and I don't like the idea of paying 3 more bets to see how my 9's like the flop.

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I think you answered your question. It seems like you believe you're drawing to two outs, and even if a nine hits any overcard has to scare you (at least Q-A).

This hand may be a reason to raise these next time, then if the loose raiser just calls you are only facing one more bet to see the flop. It also prevents any concern that the reraiser is trying to isolate the loose player, as he's up against you and the inevitable cold callers. If it is still raised twice before it gets back to you, i think you again through'em away (unless there will be a whole bunch of callers. . . )

[Piiop]

Call and flop a set. You'll get lots of action.

[A_C_Slater]

Maniacs or no maniacs:I would fold because I don't have the manhood or the cajones to call.

[Entity]

Hmm. 2:13.5 (6.75:1) assuming it isn't capped, or 3:17.5 (5.5:1) if it is. You aren't going to love it unless you flop a set, so it's pretty damned close. I'd probably grudgingly call because the implied odds are definitely there if you hit.

Anyone else?

Rob

[dellcosta]

I think Piiop is right. You're a bit short on pot odds to flop a set, but the implied odds are strong. 99 is plenty good enough to see the flop in just about any ring game.

[Entity]

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Call and flop a set. You'll get lots of action.

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Yeah, listen to Piopppop. He's more succinct than I.

[blackaces13]

I called it because I knew if I hit a set I'd collect a ton of bets, it was a close decision though and I'm not sure its right.

Loose unpredictable man caps (of course) and everyone calls. BTW, something I forgot to mention in my original post is that the tight raiser who 3 bet preflop is on the SB this hand and the loose guy who capped is the button.

So, we've got 4 to the flop for 18 SBs

flop: Qc 7c 3d

Tight SB player leads, UTG raises, my move

[Entity]

Fold.

[blackaces13]

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Fold.

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Exactly, this part is easy. It is tough to fold a flop after having it capped pre though. Oh well.