Who Is More Of A Man?

[RPatterson]

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Why is it inexcusable? Why isn't it just dumb or rude?

And what do you imagine is different about the outcome if the floor person ejects said guy versus if you take it outside and have a fight? What exactly does the fighting accomplish?

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I think dumb rude comments are inexcusible. I guess I'm not as tolerant as you when it comes to dumb rude comments.

The floor person probably wont eject someone just for berating you. There is actually no law against dumb rude comments, your expected to take care of yourself.

What does the fighting accomplish? It lets the guy in question know that he can't freely verbaly abuse you, because you aren't confident and secure enough to sit in a chair and take it, pretending you aren't bothered, and hoping he soon stops.

[umdpoker]

i'm gonna have to agree with bison on this one. somebody talking [censored] is not a good enough reason to kick somebody's ass. this does not mean i haven't done it in the past. unfortunatley, i went through a change in my life recently called adulthood. maybe i am just turning soft? i think one day i just decided to try to follow what most successful people are doing. starting fights with people for talking [censored] isn't a very common trait for successful people.

"If someone walked up to me in the street and spit on me, I probably wouldn't be mad. But I'd still have to deal with them"

if this happened, i would be pissed, and kick some ass. spitting on somebody is disgusting. its not even comparable to talking [censored]. in my mind, spitting is somebody else starting a physical confrontation, which i must finish.

[Steve Giufre]

Did you post this for any other reason than to let everybody that you are one tough dude? Congrats, you seem like a real ass kicker.

[bisonbison]

So, having pounded my head against the brick wall of Ero's indomitable libertarian fantasies, I decided to give his scenario 2 seconds of thought. Here goes:

Ero is sitting at Table A with the Jerk. Jerk draws out on Ero and begins to make fun of him for it.

Jerk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ero: I don't appreciate that.
Jerk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ero: You'd better stop now, buddy.
Jerk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sissy!
Ero: I'm warning you. Stop.
Jerk: Yeah, or what?
Ero: Or we can go discuss this outside.
Jerk: I don't think so, I'm having a good time at this table, and you're 4 inches taller than I am.
Ero: No, I insist we go outside.
Jerk: Lighten up, dude, I don't think so. You're gonna try to beat me up for laughing at a poker table?
Ero: You've stepped over the line.
Jerk: What line?
Ero: The line of inexcusability.
Jerk: What, am I bothering you?
Ero: Yes, but not so that I'm upset by it. You see violence is a tool, like a toothbrush or a hammer. Particularly like a hammer.
Jerk: Um, but we live in a society of laws...
Ero: LAWS ENFORCED AT BAYONET-POINT!
Jerk: Can I finish?
Ero: AT BAYONET POINT!
Jerk: And those laws say that punching someone is worse than making fun of them for losing a pot at a poker table.
Ero: Don't mix me up with your moral relativism.
Jerk: That's not relativism, that's just that one is assault and the other is what, being annoying?
Ero: Listen, bad laws and also laws against punching don't apply to me.
Jerk: Um, I'm not sure I follow.
Ero: You're expected to take care of yourself. Ergo, if you cut me off in traffic, I have the right to kill your dog.
Jerk: Woah there buddy.
Ero: How else am I gonna get you to stop acting like an ass?
Jerk: Well, you could try reasoning with me.
Ero: But that's clearly not working, did you read my first three lines of this dialogue?
Jerk: So if reasoning doesn't work, your only choice is to escalate it into violence? You can't be a bigger man and simply walk away?
Ero: What are you talking about? Where does this hippie ghandi bigger man bullshit come from? The bigger man isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and his knuckles torn. To crush his enemy, see them driven before him and hear the lamenta...
Jerk: But doesn't that logic simply produce a never-ending cycle of revenge?
Ero: Not if you punch the guy convincingly.
Jerk: Huh?
Ero: You know, hard enough so he agrees with you.
Jerk: What if he wins the fight?
Ero: Couldn't happen.
Jerk: But let's just assume.
Ero: Then I'd have to just bleed on him enough to convince him that laughing at me isn't worth the price of his cleaning bills. You ever seen Cool-Hand Luke?
Jerk: Yeah, I love that movie.
Ero: Isn't Paul Newman great? And I don't mean that in a sissy way. I like him like a man likes a good punching of stuff.
Jerk: So, a lot?
Ero: Oh yeah.
Jerk: That's great. By the way, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
[Several minutes later]
Jerk: ...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ero: That's it, I'm calling the floor.
Jerk: What, not man enough to handle your own problems?
Ero: I already told you, I'm happy to meet you outside for pugilism and/or fisticuffs.
Jerk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



I am sitting at table B with the Jerk's younger brother.
Jerk: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Me: whatever.
[several minutes later]
The Moment has passed and we've all moved on with our lives.

[bernie]

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B: Telling the villian he does not approve of his behavior and if he wants to continue talking they can go outside and talk it over.

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Villain says no he isn't going outside, but continues to berate the player. Then what? I'm sure your answer will almost reach the highschool level.

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Who is cooler?

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It's about being cool?

Well then obviously it's the teenager using mom's computer to start this thread. Yknow, the one who can't handle being called a sissy.

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calling him stupid, a weak player, a sissy,

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geez. Those are harsh, fighting words if i ever heard em. Thank god i've never been on the recieving end of that rant. Golly, what would i do? Maybe i'd act like a thinskinned pussy and whine while throwing a tantrum about someone calling me names begging him to go outside. God, that's manly. Turn into a whiny, hysterical bitch. Everyone will look up to you for that.

I'd rather be the spectator watching a berating moron and a guy who can't handle a name thrown his way beating on each other. This is the prime entertainment that always gets cut out and bleeped on the springer show. Oh, wait. I did get to see that before. A few times. everytime, both people looked like idiots.

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[Dan Mezick]

The outcome of fight between a water buffalo and a crocodile depends on where the contest takes place.

He's already got you, because you have let your opponent pick the "psychological venue" for this test of your emotional control.

You might think about bringing headphones in your pocket with you next time you set out to play.

Don't forget the batteries.

[emp1346]

you're such a [expletive deleted] bison...

[steamboatin]

Erostratus, so that we have a proper frame of reference, How old are you?

If you are young, you will outgrow this, if you survive. If you are 25 or older, I am afraid you have not matured emotionally.

Your arguements don't make any sense at all. I am a bigger man than you because I can't take a little trash talk and want to fight at the drop of a hat. I have no emotional stability so I jump to violence at the earliest opportunity to prove my manhood.

You see this behavior in the playground at recess. I've never been to prison but I am confident if you trash talk someone in there, you get a shiv in the back. Lots of big men in prison. Lots of big men on the playground defending their manhood at recess.

[chesspain]

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Erostratus, so that we have a proper frame of reference, How old are you?


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Since he allegedly has a fifteen year old girlfriend, he is either a teenager or a pedophile...or both. Hardly the big, tough man he portrays.

[Straussman]

Maybe a better question is who is more of an idiot? The guy who says "let's take it outside," or the guy who stays calm and (if necessary) calls for the floorman? If you don't know the answer to this already, Erostratus, not only should you not be playing poker for money, you probably shouldn't be allowed out of the house.

The first guy has a couple of problems. One is, there's a decent chance he's going to jail. Two is, no matter how tough you are, the guy with the knife or gun is going to hurt, maybe kill you. Three is, if you're going to lower yourself to the level of any idiot you meet, you become a sort of lowest common denominator yourself.

Real men only fight when there is a good reason. You haven't stated one, or even gotten close. Such a fragile ego must be on a permanent tilt.

Just my opinion, but I'm also right.