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Old 09-17-2004, 04:09 PM
bernie bernie is offline
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The first cut's the deepest.
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:27 PM
frank_iii frank_iii is offline
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I keep waiting for the punchline to all of this:

THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO BE DELICATE. HE THREW AN ASHTRAY AT ME AND MY SCREAMS WERE IGNORED AS HE DECLARED THAT I'D BE THE THIRD QUEEN FOR HIM THAT NIGHT. IT DID NOT MATTER TO ME THOUGH BECAUSE I TOOK ALL HIS CHIPS IN THE END. PEACE OUT YA FAT HUMPS.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:22 PM
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Well there are no rules against punching someone if neither of you are in a hand.

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Actually there are LAWS against this.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:38 PM
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Eyecast,
You absolutely did the right thing and left. Yes, the animal is in all of us and can be tested by this type of person--the thing to know is that you were able to manage and control the beast (which is not you) and performed a great success. Aside from that , this type of person goes beyond the bounds of probity because he feels protected by the very people who are supposed to protect you. He knows you have no recourse and pushes the limits of human forberance. But you do have an out as a persistant complaining to the floor people as to the intentions and belligerance of your opponent is in order. It may only bring a warning but you must keep up the pressure and attack him through your police who happen to be the casino officials.Stay on it ,never stop, the slightest aberrant look can be cause for another complaint about the intruder into your psychological space. Become as obstreperous as your opponent but never threat, just keep reporting him to the officials. Casino management will respond and many at the table will side with you including the dealer. They are responsible for proper order at the tables and they will do it. An example"how can you let this man play at your tables when he's continually calling me a "muthr-fker,*^#@*^%@,etc.". keep the pressure up,complain to the dealer,etc.
This type of person is a coward who would never do this in a face to face confrontation unprotected by the casino.If he did do this without protection he just might meet up with "Sammy the Sink" who will fix his face(but not you of course).
Of course it is possible that both of you will be asked to leave but that would be good too. More than likely the belligerance will stop in one form or another.
No one has the right to expect you do be nailed to the cross at their discretion, that would have to be your sacrifice freely given.
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Old 09-17-2004, 06:52 PM
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At a trim 6'2" with quite the intimidating demeanor it turns out I'm a total wimp unless I'm nearly falling over drunk...

My defense has always been wit. If I'm also physically larger than the person, or it is online, cutting wit, scathing wit, the sort of wit you can shave with in the morning. If the situation doesn't quite call for that, then a lighter treatment, a disarming treatment.

As to how to go about this... I wonder sometimes if it isn't just something you either have or don't. Assuming you have it, or assuming I'm wrong, it is still something you must train and practice with. The first step is to never give them what they expect. Someone attacking you with words is the exact same as someone attacking you with cards and chips. A table captain is threatening because they have all the tempo, they have the focus. You disarm a table captain by taking the tempo. Same goes for a bully or someone being abusive. When you take away their tempo they lose balance, they fall down.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] HA! What a stupid way to play Aces!
[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I was just thinking the same thing.
[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Damn right you were, you just lost a bundle to me. What a moron.
[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Yeah, wish I'd done something different, for sure.
[img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Supposed to be some sort of trap huh? Dumbass, you can't trap me, everyone here knows that.
[img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Yeah, now I do to I guess. You had me right from the start.
[img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img] Damn right I did, I knew I had it the whole way.
[img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Was really smooth the way you set me in then...
[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Sure was...
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Before you even had a hand...
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Old 09-17-2004, 07:27 PM
RPatterson RPatterson is offline
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Default Re: violence in poker??

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Well there are no rules against punching someone if neither of you are in a hand.

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Actually there are LAWS against this.

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Laws are enforced by violence and threats of violence. So a law telling me not to take righteous violence on someone is a bit hypocritical. I wont worry about following it.
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Old 09-17-2004, 07:31 PM
RPatterson RPatterson is offline
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You should just keep saying stuff like

"can you believe this guy? he calls my all-in with an A high, ACE HIGH! and then catches 2 queens? That is just sick, that is really sick. If there was no luck involved in this game I'd always win. Nice call buddy. Keep playing like that. ACE HIGH! How can you call with that? Ridiculous"

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Old 09-17-2004, 09:36 PM
Bob Moss Bob Moss is offline
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No, in that situation, I would call the cpos and then sue his ass off.

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You kids these days... no pride... no pride at all.

Bob
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:24 PM
Wahoo91 Wahoo91 is offline
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The two things that have gotten human beings in the most trouble over the history of time are ego/pride and greed. The worst decisions in the hisotry of man have been made generally becuase of one (or both) of these items.

Physically fighting someone becuase of being verbally insulted qualifies as an error of ego/pride. There is nothing to be gained. Saving face in front of people you will never see again does not compare favorably with the possiblity of getting banned, getting fined, going to jail, and possibly actually getting hurt and losing face.

Fighting in this case is significantly -EV. bison as usual is the voice of reason.
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:38 PM
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Dude, you need to eat more fiber, back off the caffine or something.
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