collusion (kinda long, but I need advice ASAP)

[nickpepper]

[Thor]

You cannot ask to see the mucked hand if he mucks it before showdown. That means - if he fold to a bet wich he does according to the poster.

[emp1346]

while it sounds a lot like collusion, i find it difficult to believe they can continuously pull this off to the degree that the 'mob' as you put it wants to confront this straight out.

i mean, here and there they're gonna get a player to stay with... unless one of them folds out blatantly at this point, it'd be hard for me to justify guilting them for collusion...

[Easy E]

when it's heads up on the river, you most certainly can ask to see the mucked cards.

That was the original intent of the "must show" rule- to prevent this type of collusion where two players whipsaw others with raises and then hide their actions on the end.