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Old 04-14-2005, 04:28 PM
kurto kurto is offline
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I still don't get why people are defending Delay. If it was wrong for Democrats to do it, then its wrong for Republicans.

I wish people would pick a principle and stick to it consistantly regardless of which political party offends.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:00 PM
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I still don't get why people are defending Delay. If it was wrong for Democrats to do it, then its wrong for Republicans.

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That's the thing though. It hasn't been shown to be illegal or wrong, but DeLay is being raked over the coals now because he's a top GOP leader and he's up for re-election.

If it was illegal, you can be sure I'd be against DeLay too.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:08 PM
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I still don't get why people are defending Delay. If it was wrong for Democrats to do it, then its wrong for Republicans.

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That's the thing though. It hasn't been shown to be illegal or wrong, but DeLay is being raked over the coals now because he's a top GOP leader and he's up for re-election.

If it was illegal, you can be sure I'd be against DeLay too.

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That's right, nothing as of yet that has "come out" about DeLay has been illegal. Pelosi on the other hand....
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:12 PM
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Let me start by saying I haven't followed this issue too deeply. Since my subscription to Time Magazine ran out, most of my news lately comes from the Daily Show and the News section of Yahoo News.

I was under the impression that he made an 'ethics violation.' Which I assume is written somewhere and has some rules. If its wrong (which I assume it is to some degree to merit this attention when he and Pelosi have done it.) then treat everyone the same.

I just hate, on any issue, when someone does a politician does something wrong, 2/3 of their party flock to their side, excuse the action and point out how the other side did it. They fail to mention that when the other side did it first, they found 'it' to be unexcuseable.

Not to mention the Clinton years... but I remember when they were going after Clinton for the Monica ugliness... one of the Republicans involved in the proceedings stepped down because he was having an affair, cheating on his wife. The other Republicans pleaded for him to stay. (I wish I could remember his name so that I could reference it.) It struck me that the guy stepping down showed some integrity... while his peers were showing their lack of principles and pure partisanship.

And I have no doubt you could post similar examples when Democrats have done the same thing.

It just makes everyone look like a bunch of donkeys.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:13 PM
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His name was Livingston. He was going to be Speaker of the House, but thanks to Larry Flynt of Hustler, his hypocrisy was exposed.

Bob Livingston.

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Old 04-14-2005, 05:17 PM
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His name was Livingston. He was going to be Speaker of the House, but thanks to Larry Flynt of Hustler, his hypocrisy was exposed.

Bob Livingston.

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Let us not forget who committed perjury, was disbarred, and was guilty of the same basic thing, yet didn't have the decency to do the same as Mr. Livingston.

Instead, he stayed in office and continued to traitorously allow China access to advanced technology. Is it any wonder why most teens now don't consider oral sex "sex" and think its safe? Good work Bubba.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:21 PM
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Oral sex is sex, of course.

But it's not sexual intercourse. And you can't get pregnant from doing it, so most teens consider it safer.
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:23 PM
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Is it any wonder why most teens now don't consider oral sex "sex" and think its safe? Good work Bubba.

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Good thing Bush's abstinence programs are teaching girls to take it in the ass...
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:24 PM
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I just hate, on any issue, when someone does a politician does something wrong, 2/3 of their party flock to their side, excuse the action and point out how the other side did it. They fail to mention that when the other side did it first, they found 'it' to be unexcuseable.

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Agreed. But the big uproar about DeLay seems artificial. And it's a bit hypocritical for the dem leaders who are pushing this to be doing so as they've done much the same things. I hate to play the "hypocrite card" but there's not much else you can say about it. If DeLay is guilty of ethical violations and is formally charged with such, fry em.

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Not to mention the Clinton years... but I remember when they were going after Clinton for the Monica ugliness... one of the Republicans involved in the proceedings stepped down because he was having an affair, cheating on his wife. The other Republicans pleaded for him to stay. (I wish I could remember his name so that I could reference it.) It struck me that the guy stepping down showed some integrity... while his peers were showing their lack of principles and pure partisanship.

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Meh, my problem with the Lewinsky-Clinton scandal was that Clinton lied under oath. Do I really care whether the Prez gets a hummer every now and then? Not really (immoral though it is for him to be cheating). The lying about it is what I think hacked most Republicans off, and it seems like a strawman when Clinton-lovers claim that the reason Republicans didn't like it was because of the bj. Oh well.

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It just makes everyone look like a bunch of donkeys.

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Yeah... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 04-14-2005, 05:28 PM
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Hey, I'm sure you guys will be so excited that I am back! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Good to see Dead and jaxmike still at it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

FWIW, I don't like DeLay either.
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