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1C5 04-02-2005 12:01 PM

Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
Trying to add new things to my game. Party $11. Nice when things couldn't work out better. Before I would have raised 3-4X BB and would have folded probably when the flop missed me. But by pushing, I will take the money from the limpers or b)even better, double up with only an A high hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 (t530)
MP2 (t2107)
CO (t1190)
<font color="#C00000">Button (t1638)</font>
SB (t915)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t790)</font>
UTG (t830)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t790 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, Button calls t740, SB folds.

Flop: (t1680) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1680) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1680) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1680

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has Ad Jh (one pair, fours).
Hero has As Ks (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins t1680. </font>

syka16 04-02-2005 12:10 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
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Trying to add new things to my game. Party $11. Nice when things couldn't work out better. Before I would have raised 3-4X BB and would have folded probably when the flop missed me. But by pushing, I will take the money from the limpers or b)even better, double up with only an A high hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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You want a call only from hands you dominate Ax Kx and if you make the 4BB PF raise, those hands will pay you off when you hit anyway. So if you play AK the way you did, you pick up 3BB 90% but force youself into a coinflip 5% and dominate %5. More importantly, you force Ax/Kx into a fold when he should be paying you off. Stop doing that!!!

1C5 04-02-2005 12:12 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
Someone talk some sense into him and tell me it was a good play. I am proud of myself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Nick B. 04-02-2005 12:17 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
I think that is a pretty standard play.

syka16 04-02-2005 12:42 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
Standard? Standard is 4BB. Blowing limpers out requires fewer BB to be standard. With AKs, you're hitting the flop hard enough 50% to push the flop. I think with that stack size, you're missing too many chances to double up.

Phil Van Sexton 04-02-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
It's not standard, but it should be.

Nottom 04-02-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
Your out of position. I like the push.

davehwm 04-02-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
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It's not standard, but it should be.

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Your post about the importance of Level 3 has helped my game tremendously. Thanks.

Phil Van Sexton 04-02-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
[ QUOTE ]
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It's not standard, but it should be.

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Your post about the importance of Level 3 has helped my game tremendously. Thanks.

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Glad its working for you. I'm still waiting for someone to explain level 4. I have nothing to offer here.

sofere 04-03-2005 12:29 AM

Re: Level 3 push that couldn\'t have turned out better
 
You end up increasing your stack by 25% 9 out of 10 times??? And 30-35% of the times that your called you double up? So you bust out only 6% of the time?

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