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Nottom 07-14-2005 04:20 PM

Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
100+9

3rd hand or so. Stacks all pretty even.
No reads to speak of (no notes on either player, and like I said its hand 3), but both players in the hand have prophecy stats around 35% if that means anything to you.

Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nott0m [ Jc Jh ]
fido420 folds.
HoosierBB folds.
qwerty73 raises [45].
WILLIESUTTON calls [45].
hailua20051 calls [45].
nott0m calls [45].
commerce111 folds.
jwink26 folds.
mmmhh calls [35].
Snugglez88 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Ts, 2c ]
mmmhh checks.
qwerty73 checks.
WILLIESUTTON bets [125].
hailua20051 folds.
nott0m raises [275].
mmmhh calls [275].
qwerty73 folds.
WILLIESUTTON is all-In [1065]

Willie thought for a while before pushing.

I like polls:

durron597 07-14-2005 04:27 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
If the board had draws on it I would call, but that is such an innocent board what could they have besides a made hand?

mlagoo 07-14-2005 04:28 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
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If the board had draws on it I would call, but that is such an innocent board what could they have besides a made hand?

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this is pretty much my thought process. you're ahead of a few possible hands here... AT, 89s come to mind. Most of the time you're behind a set. Muck it.

schwza 07-14-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
if there had been an option for "fold your clear 2-outer" i would have voted for it.

how could you possibly be ahead here?

curtains 07-14-2005 04:41 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 

Trust me its very possible hes ahead.

curtains 07-14-2005 04:42 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 

Also I agree with raising, as its unlikely the bettor has AA-QQ due to the flat call preflop.

I'm scared enough of the cold caller to fold to this allin. I may be tempted to call otherwise due to the huge idiot factor on partypoker and the pot odds.

durron597 07-14-2005 04:45 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
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I'm scared enough of the cold caller

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That's what I meant.

Vee Quiva 07-14-2005 05:04 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
I wrote a similar post on this and everyone got all over me for suggesting a fold.

I agree you are probably looking at a made hand, so fold the 2 outer.

Also do you think the board (draw heavy or not) makes a difference here? If it's monotone, it's an easy fold. If there is a straight possible it's an easy fold. It's just more possible hands out there that beat you. I tend not to believe that players will push all in this early on a draw.

schwza 07-14-2005 05:08 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 
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Trust me its very possible hes ahead.

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i'd put it at under 20% that he's ahead of either individually.

curtains 07-14-2005 05:14 PM

Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.
 

Im confused, you think that JJ is less than 20% to be ahead of each player, or both combined?


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