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View Poll Results: Does your poker room allow (no warning or dicipline) a player to call their hand incorrectly at show
Not Allowed 28 49.12%
Allowed 29 50.88%
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:20 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
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Default Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

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3rd hand or so. Stacks all pretty even.
No reads to speak of (no notes on either player, and like I said its hand 3), but both players in the hand have prophecy stats around 35% if that means anything to you.

Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nott0m [ Jc Jh ]
fido420 folds.
HoosierBB folds.
qwerty73 raises [45].
WILLIESUTTON calls [45].
hailua20051 calls [45].
nott0m calls [45].
commerce111 folds.
jwink26 folds.
mmmhh calls [35].
Snugglez88 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, Ts, 2c ]
mmmhh checks.
qwerty73 checks.
WILLIESUTTON bets [125].
hailua20051 folds.
nott0m raises [275].
mmmhh calls [275].
qwerty73 folds.
WILLIESUTTON is all-In [1065]

Willie thought for a while before pushing.

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Old 07-14-2005, 04:27 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

If the board had draws on it I would call, but that is such an innocent board what could they have besides a made hand?
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

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If the board had draws on it I would call, but that is such an innocent board what could they have besides a made hand?

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this is pretty much my thought process. you're ahead of a few possible hands here... AT, 89s come to mind. Most of the time you're behind a set. Muck it.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:30 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

if there had been an option for "fold your clear 2-outer" i would have voted for it.

how could you possibly be ahead here?
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.


Trust me its very possible hes ahead.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.


Also I agree with raising, as its unlikely the bettor has AA-QQ due to the flat call preflop.

I'm scared enough of the cold caller to fold to this allin. I may be tempted to call otherwise due to the huge idiot factor on partypoker and the pot odds.
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Old 07-14-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

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I'm scared enough of the cold caller

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That's what I meant.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:04 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

I wrote a similar post on this and everyone got all over me for suggesting a fold.

I agree you are probably looking at a made hand, so fold the 2 outer.

Also do you think the board (draw heavy or not) makes a difference here? If it's monotone, it's an easy fold. If there is a straight possible it's an easy fold. It's just more possible hands out there that beat you. I tend not to believe that players will push all in this early on a draw.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.

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Trust me its very possible hes ahead.

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i'd put it at under 20% that he's ahead of either individually.
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Old 07-14-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Level 1, JJ, Overpair, Lots of action.


Im confused, you think that JJ is less than 20% to be ahead of each player, or both combined?
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