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pokerdirty 09-01-2005 05:59 PM

Top 1 or Top 3
 
I'm looking at some of my results over my first 500 SnGs, and I find that my ITM + RoI percentages aren't where I want them. I come in first 17% of the time, and ITM 33%, with a low RoI. If only the winner gets paid, my RoI would be almost 55%, assuming the same results.

Now, if this were to happen, there would obviously be consequences. Would n00bs play less SnGs if this happened, due to only a 10% chance of cashing, rather than 30%? Would the play become much tougher? Would you still play SnGs if they became winner take all?

I think 2p2ers would like this to happen, because 2p2ers should be in the top 1/3 of players, but I'm very interested in what you guys think.

-dirty

lorinda 09-01-2005 06:00 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
Paying the top three allows for more mathematical errors by reasonable players and instinct players.

That's good for us.

Lori

valenzuela 09-01-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
believe it or not,ppl actually get paid to figure out which payout is better.The site already figured out 50/30/20 is better for them.
I sent an email and they told me because they thought it was the best payout.

pokerdirty 09-01-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
in the short term though, right?

i would assume in the long run that if you are a better player, winner take all would appeal more than top 3

pokerdirty 09-01-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
who is them? the sites?

BigHobo 09-01-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
Top 3 reduces variance.

The Yugoslavian 09-01-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
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in the short term though, right?

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Having a top 3 payout structure basically allows for more mistakes to be made by players who don't understand CEV vs. $EV considerations. Recreational or beginning players have a very, very poor understanding of this.

Yugoslav

raptor517 09-01-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
all seem to forget about the bubble created by paying the top 3. thats one of the most important aspects of our games. holla

pokerdirty 09-01-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
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all seem to forget about the bubble created by paying the top 3. thats one of the most important aspects of our games. holla

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what do you mean by this?

The Yugoslavian 09-01-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Top 1 or Top 3
 
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all seem to forget about the bubble created by paying the top 3. thats one of the most important aspects of our games. holla

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what do you mean by this?

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He means the point where $EV != CEV to the largest amount.

I'm not sold you have much understanding about STT fundamentals to begin with. Your ITM certainly doesn't seem to reflect an understanding of bubble play.

Yugoslav


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