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SpaceAce 12-20-2004 06:18 AM

Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
PokerStars $3/$6 full game. I'm playing a bunch of tables but I have enough of a read on the guy to my left to know that he isn't much for bluffing; if he's acting strong, he's strong. I'm not saying he's good, just straightforward.

I get red nines in the big blind. The action is limped all the way around to me. This is the first family pot I have seen in a long time.

The flop: 295 with two clubs.

The small blind checks, I check and the action is checked to a late position player who bets. Two people call and I check-raise. The player directly to my left calls two cold, the bettor three-bets, I cap, the person to my left calls two more cold and when all is said and done, four of us see the turn.

The turn: 7 of not-clubs.

I bet out. Now the player to my left wakes up and raises. The tagalong player folds and the aggressor from last street calls two cold. I three-bet, the player to my left caps and the third player calls two more cold. I call.

The river: 2 of not-clubs.
Final board: 29572

I bet, the player to my left raises, late position calls two cold, I three-bet, player to my left caps, late position calls two cold and I call.

So, what cards were we holding and how did we play them? This was a hell of a hand given the generally weak-tight texture of the PokerStars $3/$6 game.

SpaceAce

bdk3clash 12-20-2004 09:06 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
"I get red nines in the big blind."
...
"So, what cards were we holding..."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you had 99. What the hell, I'll be specific and put you on 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Guy on your left should have 22 or 55 here, more likely 55.

Since I don't know the exact flop, tag-along player could have a lame overpair like TT or JJ or something like A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], something like that.

Alexthegreat 12-20-2004 10:08 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
seems pretty obvious that the aggro has 55....could possibly have 77.....The cold caller has a flush draw with the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand.....he could have the 7 and 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I'm not sure what this post is for though....pretty standard hand here....congrats on the large pot...

sfer 12-20-2004 10:49 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
I prefer betting, not checkraising the flop, hoping for a raise, seeing where I am in relation to it, and planning the rest of the flop/my turn action appropriately.

sthief09 12-20-2004 11:37 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
if you lost to quad 2s then it's the poker gods getting back at you for raising 22 UTG at our 2+2 2/4 table back in March and flopping quads against JSD's AA [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

SpaceAce 12-21-2004 08:15 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
[ QUOTE ]
"I get red nines in the big blind."
...
"So, what cards were we holding..."

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you had 99. What the hell, I'll be specific and put you on 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Guy on your left should have 22 or 55 here, more likely 55.

Since I don't know the exact flop, tag-along player could have a lame overpair like TT or JJ or something like A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], something like that.

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL, by the time I noticed, I couldn't edit.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce 12-21-2004 08:17 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
[ QUOTE ]
seems pretty obvious that the aggro has 55....could possibly have 77.....The cold caller has a flush draw with the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand.....he could have the 7 and 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I'm not sure what this post is for though....pretty standard hand here....congrats on the large pot...

[/ QUOTE ]

It's not quite that straightforward. If I hadn't botched and posted what I held, the mystery would be a bit deeper. Results coming soon.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce 12-21-2004 08:19 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I prefer betting, not checkraising the flop, hoping for a raise, seeing where I am in relation to it, and planning the rest of the flop/my turn action appropriately.

[/ QUOTE ]

I considered this but with the clubs out, I was hoping to get in some bets right there and possibly force some of the players to call two cold.

SpaceAce

x_Gamblor_x 12-21-2004 09:13 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
My guess is that lefty limped with 77, 55, 22 or 6c8c. Ac9c is out for me because of his raise on the turn together with your "straightforward not strong" read. I lean to 68c because that gives him more incentive (13 outs to a strong hand) to call the flop cold. That would explain him raising the turn with a made staight. I would have to ask myself if he's the type of player who'd limp with a hand like that from ep - or would he only limp with a small pair?

I also guess that your lp preflop raiser has a decent overpair that he is hoping will hold up. I don't put him on a flush draw because of his calling down on the river.

x_Gamblor_x 12-21-2004 09:19 AM

Re: Lots of action: a hand-reading excercise.
 
I completely agree with that check. You can almost be sure someone will bet with that many limpers.


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