1st hand, KK...
 

six-handed $50 SNG on UB...

First hand, I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

flop is J96 rainbow

BB leads out with a pot-sized bet. One fold, I push.
Other limper folds, BB calls with J9os. I'm out.

Anyone else fold this flop???

What if he had checked the flop, I bet, and came over the top? Anyone fold that?

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

i'm pretty sure i don't fold this in either case.

citanul

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

What are the starting stacks for the six handed UB games? And what are the bet sizes here? I think a foldable situation is conceivable (though unlikely) given the right parameters, but only in the check/raise scenario. I'm coming over the top almost every time when he leads out.

-Phoenix

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

Unless an A drops or a really scary board (4 flush or something that I don't have) comes out, I am going to the felt with this one.

Does this answer you question, this is from the 50s
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t910)
MP2 (t1165)
MP3 (t1000)
CO (t1000)
Button (t970)
Hero (t985)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t970)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t57.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t45.

Flop: (t132.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t250</font>, Hero calls t125.

Turn: (t632.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Converter screwed up:
Hero Checks, MP1 bets 325, Hero goes all in (650 or so), MP1 calls

River: (t1910) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t632.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and twos).
MP1 has Jd Kc (two pair, jacks and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins t632.50. </font>

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

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I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

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I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

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No. If it was a minraise, calling does not make him a moron. Leading into the bettor was also a smart line.

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

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No. If it was a minraise, calling does not make him a moron. Leading into the bettor was also a smart line.

[/ QUOTE ]I was assuming that it wasn't a minraise since nothing was said on the specific amount of the raise. I merely said that whatever he raised, it wasn't enough if he got three callers. If he minraised, then yes, he got what he deserved.

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

I should have specified. I agree completely with the first part of your post, I was just pointing out that we do not have enough information in the hand to make a judgement of BB's play.

Re: 1st hand, KK...
 

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I get KK...one limper to me, I raise, get three callers.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise more. You never want three callers. Maybe you didn't know that at the time, but you need to figure out a good number that eliminates all but one or at the most two callers. But J9o is a moron. Remember his or her name and follow him or her around. Make lots of money.

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I always raise at least the size of the pot...any more and i'm scaring away hands I want to call....it sure did surprise me to get three callers, though.