Re: JJ on a Q high flop
 

your damned if you do and your damned if you don't [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: JJ on a Q high flop
 

Salt,

I think we both agree that this is a lousy spot to be in and there are certainly pros and cons to both our lines of thinking here.

As PM pointed out in the thread no way does an average oppenent fold a Q here, and I think that is the main difference in what we are assuming. I'm also very hard pressed to put the CO on a hand, given PM's description of the CO I think it could be almost anything.

The only thing I disagree with in this reply is that a pot sized bet represents an overpair. Most of the time a pot sized bet from me means on the flop I most likely have 2 cards and that is about all. 95% of my flop bets are pot sized and I can assure you its not always an overpair.

crazy like a fox
 

He slowplayed his KK for maximum value.
Sure he took some chances, but he got more chips! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: crazy like a fox
 

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He slowplayed his KK for maximum value.
Sure he took some chances, but he got more chips.

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It's true that with my bad bet on the river, he made some more chips here.

However, if that's the way he'll usually play KK (and I don't have a reason to believe he was an observant player, who tried to maximize his profits against *my* specific play), he's very far from making "more chips" with this hand. Actualy, he's probably losing chips with it.

And I assure you, after watching him keep playing in this SNG - he's not the type of player who knows what he's doing. So I wouldn't be so fast to compliment him (and I don't have a problem doing it when I feel someone deserves it).

PrayingMantis