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Rico Suave
02-09-2004, 03:50 PM
EP2 is loose. Table is typical party. Oh, did I mention that EP2 is loose.

Party Poker 2/4 (10 handed)
Hero has Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif and is BB

EP1 limps, EP2 limps, MP2 limps, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop(4 1/2 SB): 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Hero checks, EP1 bets, EP2 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, EP1 calls, EP2 calls

Turn(5 1/4 BB): A/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hero bets, EP1 folds, EP2 calls

River(7 1/4 BB): 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hero bets, EP2 raises.....

I should fold here, right?

--Rico

bicyclekick
02-09-2004, 03:53 PM
Just call.

bdk3clash
02-09-2004, 04:03 PM
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River (7 1/4 BB): 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hero bets, EP2 raises.....

I should fold here, right?

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I would call. You're getting 10.25:1 to call. Though you described EP2 as loose, you didn't describe him as passive, which may tip this toward a fold.

I'm calling here and expecting to lose; though I'm pretty sure you'll be pleasantly surprised more than the requisite 10% of the time needed to make this call profitable.

In short: crying call.

Anyone else?

Festus22
02-09-2004, 04:57 PM
This may be one of those rare instances where a river check/call may be in order. A value bet is not automatic where there's an overcard, a 3-flush and a one-card straight draw. And you may even induce a bluff if you're ahead getting that one bet anyway. Regardless, you get to see a showdown with this play. And this would be especially true against a loose player who may very well show you a 5 in addition to spades.