View Full Version : Can Party Poker 4th and 5th street cards be predicted?
t_perkin
02-10-2004, 06:13 PM
Ok here is my report from todays 2+2 SnG. If some of these hands are not complete scientific, incontrivertible proof that we are using pattern maps then I don't know what is:
CrisBrown first one out - AQ beaten by 77 on a A7x flop.
shub raises to 90, spike_tt makes it 200. unknown calls.
Flop comes with an ATx Spike moves in, kieron (unknown) calls. Spike has AK, Kieron has AQ. All stands up. Shub stands clear
Once again shub raises to 90 stoneii raises to 300 this time. Shub moves in, stoneii calls. Shub shows QQ, stoneii has the rockets. Extra Rocket comes on the turn to confirm things.
A lot of money shifts around between the two remaining unknowns
DrPhysic fails to convince anyone /images/graemlins/smile.gif and loses a lot to a few bigger bullies than he is. (namely me and an orrjan - using our patternmaps)
Physic makes a comeback by playing JJ as a small bet reraise against McMelch who takes the bait. There was an A on the flop tho.. but the Doc holds on
McMelchior takes a nice pot with 44 that teams up on the flop against unknown and DrPhysic. Doc gives up again leaving him with T250
The doc and McMelch both bow out to stoneii when he gets a nice little flush, slightly bigger than McMelch's.
Spike TT loses to a straight
Down to the final table.....
I all but take out PrayingMantis when my KK takes down against his JJ
He leaves one hand later
two hands later I double up again when my KK beats MobyDick's AKs - Sorry Moby
Stoneii loses with QQ against an orrjans JKo K hits on the turn - pattern map is correct again....
orrjan has 8000. I have 3.3k, hedged(random) has 3.8k, MobyDick has 2.6, HeyRocker has 2.8, iller(random) has 1.7, stoneii 2.6k, PokerJon 1.5.
Stoneii goes out with a straight against orrjans flush. He got the money in on the turn and orrjan needed the river and got it. Hard luck stoneii. Pattern map succeeds again....
iller takes a chunk of orrjan when TJs hits a T to beat QKo
PokerJon has been doing nothing but move in all night, and Moby is annoyed, calls with AQ only to face AK, niether hit a thing and Moby is down to 900, PokerJon is up to 4000.
I pick up quite a few pots PF, they look like steals but some are are not.
Poker Jon almost annihlates orrjan with trip JJJ.
Orrjan lives with J2 which two pairs on the flop to hold off MobyDicks AQ. pattern maps on target.....
one hand later (Moby has KQs, Hedged has KJo):
Dealer: Game #281742148: orrjan wins pot (975)
Dealer: Starting new hand: #281743419
Dealer: Poker Jon posts the ante 25
Dealer: orrjan posts the ante 25
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 posts the ante 25
Dealer: hedged posts the ante 25
Dealer: MobyDick posts the ante 25
Dealer: heyrocker posts the ante 25
Dealer: iller posts the ante 25
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 posts small blind 200
Dealer: hedged posts big blind 400
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
orrjan: steal k - 8
Dealer: MobyDick raises 70 to 470 and is all-in
Dealer: heyrocker folds
DrPhysic [observer]: what'd perkin do? hijack a chip truck?
Dealer: iller folds
Dealer: Poker Jon folds
Dealer: orrjan folds
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 folds
hedged: time to see how rags hold up
Dealer: hedged calls 70
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [Td 9c Kh]
hedged: Q
hedged: Q
Dealer: Dealing Turn: [5h]
hedged: Q
hedged: Q
Dealer: Dealing River: [Qs]
Dealer: hedged has a straight, Nine to King
Dealer: MobyDick has a pair of Kings
bkerins [observer]: <oy>
heyrocker: wow
t_perkin 2+2: awwwwwwwwwww
Dealer: Game #281743419: hedged wins pot (1315) with a straight, Nine to King
Dealer: MobyDick finished the tournament in 7th place
MobyDick [observer]: knew it
I reckon Hedger knew it too - check out his chat - he has a good pattern map
iller and orrjan are in all out war, orrjan's luck hold with Jx against Qx. Iller dies. Orrjan *definately* has a pattern map
Down to 5:
Me 7.4k
PokerJon 7k
orrjan 2.8k
hedged 4k
heyrocker 2.1k
blinds 300/600
hedged raises to 1800, heyrocker moves in. rocker loses unlucky.
I take out orrjan (finally!) when I call his bluff on the flop AJ2. I have A9s he has K4. Turn/River was Q/4 - one rank off two pair (and the flush).
I nearly take out PokerJOn with KJ against KT he is saved by 7,K,6,Q,6
next hadn we both move in again with AT suited all sqaure
blinds 400/800
me 14k
hedged 8k
poker jon 3k
I take out hedged with AK against AJ
me 23k
PokerJon 4k
A few hands into heads up I raise with 75s, PokerJon moves in, I (have to) call.
Poker Jon has 44, I have well.. 75s
Flop comes 7QA, turn 7, river 5.
Pattern maps NEVER fail.
gg everyone.
Hope to see you all next week.
I wont win again, now that I have taken my "rake" for organising these things /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
PokerStars are really very helpful about organising such "circumstances". And they have no problem with me using my Pattern Map (I am using the Log9 function btw. with a little extra function that eliminates the Baysian remainder giving me an extra 2 percentage points in prediction quality).
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 06:16 PM
Everyone uses them.
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 07:28 PM
BUMP FOR 10000 VIEWS
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:05 PM
Is 10,000 the definite deadline?
Ulysses
02-10-2004, 10:10 PM
The definite deadline is when 10 users have weighed in with their opinion as to whether or not pattern map use is cheating when used in the manner you describe in your essay.
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:11 PM
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The definite deadline is when 10 users have weighed in with their opinion as to whether or not pattern map use is cheating when used in the manner you describe in your essay.
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And what if 10 members don't weigh in?
Potless
02-10-2004, 10:18 PM
I have just read all of the posts in this thread and cannot believe you guys have nothing better to do than write them or bump posts just to achieve a meANINGLESS AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS RECORD. OOps sorry about the shouting! However if forced to take a view I would have to say the answer to the question is 42.
Chris Parsley
02-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Id say no, it isn't cheating, and here's why.
Anything that a site has been alerted to, but is too dumb and stupid, or simply not to care about corrrecting, definitely is condoing such action. Any player, with that on the docket, that doesn't take any advantage he or she may have, might as well throw the money out the window and turn off their computer.
Now, even a better reason. If enough players start using the maps, either A) the site will wise up and finally fix it, or B) A lot of smart people will become rather rich.
How's that for a short essay to answer your question?
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:23 PM
For: 2
t_perkin
Chris Parsley
Against: 0
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:27 PM
Over 10,000 views
And more members need to weigh in
BreakEvenPlayer
02-10-2004, 10:32 PM
Well... Congratulations Ulysses, et. al. for the best thread I have seen in my two years of lurking. And to think we had all been using those log6 maps for years thinking that our 35% accuracy was good enough... You're a hero Ulysses.
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:47 PM
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Well... Congratulations Ulysses, et. al. for the best thread I have seen in my two years of lurking. And to think we had all been using those log6 maps for years thinking that our 35% accuracy was good enough... You're a hero Ulysses.
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Do you think pattern maps are cheating BreakEvenPlayer?
Please weigh in.
Thanks
Homer
02-10-2004, 10:49 PM
Can you please just let this thread die? It stopped being funny a long time ago.
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 10:52 PM
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Can you please just let this thread die? It stopped being funny a long time ago.
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You have to weigh in before it dies.
jek187
02-10-2004, 10:56 PM
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Can you please just let this thread die?
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Is this your way of saying that you aren't curious if 2+2 can handle a thread with 100,000 views?
acrylic48
02-10-2004, 11:01 PM
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Can you please just let this thread die?
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Is this your way of saying that you aren't curious if 2+2 can handle a thread with 100,000 views?
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If you are going to post in this thread, please also weigh in and say if you think it is cheating or not.
golgi11
02-10-2004, 11:06 PM
I don't think it is cheating either. I agree with Kate's statements about taking money away from bad players. And I agree with all of Chris Parsley's statements too. Make it three people that think it is not cheating Kate.
Ed Miller
02-10-2004, 11:08 PM
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 12:00 AM
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The definite deadline is when 10 users have weighed in with their opinion as to whether or not pattern map use is cheating when used in the manner you describe in your essay.
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Think it is NOT cheating: 3
Think it IS cheating: 0
More members please weigh in!
No way, it's still funny.
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Can you please just let this thread die? It stopped being funny a long time ago.
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acrylic48
02-11-2004, 02:32 AM
Up before bed for input from 7 more members
tablecop
02-11-2004, 02:47 AM
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/616221
proves it's been done. sh!t
Puffin
02-11-2004, 03:08 AM
haha How is it not cheating. You have an unfair advantage over people who do not use one. It boggles my mind that you can convince yourself it is not cheating. Hell if I had one I would use it too. But I would at least admit ITS CHEATING. I am not saying you shouldn't do it, but I can't imagine convincing myself its not cheating.
Although its not cheating if you don't get caught.
Funny how the SAME article has been posted like 10 times after Lori first posted it.
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http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/616221
proves it's been done. sh!t
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You know what, Ulysses, I don't necessarily think we need more input. As long as you're willing to share the Ulyssesbot (not quite the log8 pattern map), I'm sure Kate won't mind. At least she won't be waiting up all night.
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Up before bed for input from 7 more members
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Puffin
02-11-2004, 03:49 AM
Seriously....If your not gonna post that [censored] at least send that [censored] to me. I could certainly use it.
BookOfIcculus
02-11-2004, 05:00 AM
Bump this thread needs more attention. It is very thought prvoking and profound.
spike
02-11-2004, 08:07 AM
Those of us using the pattern maps may well have an advantage over those who don't. But in what way is it unfair? The methods used are public enough so if people can't be bothered to use that information that's their problem.
Are those who use PokerTracker cheating those who don't?
Are those who bother to calculate or otherwise discover the odds of making a flush on the river cheating those who can't be bothered?
Spike weighs in with a "not cheating" vote.
Gamblor
02-11-2004, 10:16 AM
Only 20 posts and we beat the "What's wrong with the SS Forum" thread.
thomastem, let's get to work.
Ulysses, I think he needs the Ulyssesbot too. The only problem is that only one person can use it at a time (licensing agreements, I think)
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Seriously....If your not gonna post that [censored] at least send that [censored] to me. I could certainly use it.
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parlance
02-11-2004, 11:34 AM
i needed to post to this monstrosity. long live this thread!
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 12:17 PM
People who think it is NOT cheating: 4
t_perkin
Chris Parsley
golgi11
Spike
People who think it IS cheating: 1
Puffin
5 more members PLEASE weigh in!
Thanks
thomastem
02-11-2004, 12:38 PM
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Only 20 posts and we beat the "What's wrong with the SS Forum" thread.
thomastem, let's get to work.
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Yeah I'll chip in and do my part. Can someone post a link on SS so they can follow this? Can anyone write a disclaimer that when they post that thomastem aka "Critter dude" isn't singling out an individual before writing your post?
* I think every post ever written on 2+2 should start with, "In no way is thomastem singling someone out in my post written by me not him."
Puffin
02-11-2004, 01:04 PM
You have an unfair advantage cause you know how your hands are going to pan out. This is poker you are not suposed to know exactly. You are suposed to pay the bet if you want to find out. Not use a cheat program. Stop trying to justify to yoursleves that its not cheating and just admit your winning money cheating online....who cares.
Here is an exaple lets say you play heads up with a guy and you have a pattern map and he doesn't. Wonder who is gonna win. Hell he could be a great player but you'll win cause you know whats comming out.
Its like using a corked bat in baseball. It isn't gonna make you godlike but it gives you an advantage over people not using one.
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 01:08 PM
You are already counted in the cheating vote Puffin.
Its still
4 for NOT cheating
1 for IS cheating
Need 5 more members to weigh in
thomastem
02-11-2004, 01:12 PM
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You are already counted in the cheating vote Puffin.
Its still
4 for NOT cheating
1 for IS cheating
Need 5 more members to weigh in
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I didn't realize there was a vote. I'm not allowed to offend so I'll vote it's not cheating when it really is.
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 01:23 PM
OK, so that makes it:
5 NOT cheating
1 IS cheating
4 more members to weigh in!
OrangeHeat
02-11-2004, 01:28 PM
Ok I'll add to this colossal mess for history's sake - It may or not be cheating depending on your ethics.
You can count this as .5 votes for each.
Orange
GULLIBLE - def.: Anyone who believes this thread
pudley4
02-11-2004, 01:31 PM
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You have an unfair advantage cause you know how your hands are going to pan out. This is poker you are not suposed to know exactly. You are suposed to pay the bet if you want to find out. Not use a cheat program. Stop trying to justify to yoursleves that its not cheating and just admit your winning money cheating online....who cares.
Here is an exaple lets say you play heads up with a guy and you have a pattern map and he doesn't. Wonder who is gonna win. Hell he could be a great player but you'll win cause you know whats comming out.
Its like using a corked bat in baseball. It isn't gonna make you godlike but it gives you an advantage over people not using one.
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Being outraged by pattern mapping = old
At least be creative
MrFroggyX
02-11-2004, 01:39 PM
This is off topic but i figure with a thred with over 100 000 views someone can explain what is wrong.. lol
I don't see any signature's..! Not my own, not any one else either. Why? Do you people see any?
Thanks for your answers.
thomastem
02-11-2004, 01:44 PM
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This is off topic but i figure with a thred with over 100 000 views someone can explain what is wrong.. lol
I don't see any signature's..! Not my own, not any one else either. Why? Do you people see any?
Thanks for your answers.
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They were thinking that getting rid of sig might fix "What wrong with the SS forum" while at the same time offnding groups but not individuals comprised there within. Hope this helps.
pudley4
02-11-2004, 02:36 PM
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This is off topic but i figure with a thred with over 100 000 views someone can explain what is wrong.. lol
I don't see any signature's..! Not my own, not any one else either. Why? Do you people see any?
Thanks for your answers.
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They were thinking that getting rid of sig might fix "What wrong with the SS forum" while at the same time offnding groups but not individuals comprised there within. Hope this helps.
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If you're going to bash the SS again, please do it properly and quit giving out bad information. The sig issue has nothing to do with that thread. Only people with the correctly updated log9 pattern maps can see the sigs.
Hope this helps.
Bob T.
02-11-2004, 02:59 PM
A couple of tips.
A cloudless night on the new moon is the best time to go, it need to be as dark as it can get.
Although paper bags will work, experienced snipe hunters almost exclusively use burlap. They are a little tougher to find, but they are also a little tougher period. You don't want your snipe escaping, just because they can peck their way out of a wet paper bag. I don't think anyone uses plastic, because the snipe can see the lighter colors of plastic in the dark and avoid them.
Your snipe stick, is best chosen at your snipe hunting site, so that it has the resonance of a stick that the snipe might encounter in the woods.
Good luck,
hunt well,
Bob T.
JustPlayingSmart
02-11-2004, 04:00 PM
I also think it may or may not be cheating, but I think that the ratio is different. I would say it is pi/10 (~.314159) cheating and 1 - pi/10 (~.685841) not cheating.
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 05:40 PM
OK so with JustPlayingSmart's .685841 and Orangeheat's .5, that makes it:
Say it is NOT cheating:
t_perkin 1.0
Chris Parsley 1.0
golgi11 1.0
Spike 1.0
JustPlayingSmarts 0.685841
Orangeheat 0.5
Total 5.185841
Say it IS cheating:
Puffin 1.0
Thomastem 1.0
Total: 2.0
NOT CHEATING IS THE WINNER!!!
No more input is needed. The most IS cheating can get now is 4.814159.
Thanks for everyone that participated!
And thanks to Ulysses for this amazing offer!
Please email me at: acrylic48@yahoo.com to discuss whatever needs to be discussed.
Thanks again
Kate /images/graemlins/grin.gif
BookOfIcculus
02-11-2004, 05:46 PM
All these views and responses and not a single person rated this thread. Please if you came back to read thes please rate this thread a 5. And also post comments about how usefull the rating system is.
thomastem
02-11-2004, 05:56 PM
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All these views and responses and not a single person rated this thread. Please if you came back to read thes please rate this thread a 5. And also post comments about how usefull the rating system is.
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We also haven't figured out what is wrong with the ss forum. Once we do I figure 1000 more posts on how to fix it. Plus the ss forum is publishing a book titled "When I want your post I'll give it to you." look for reviews soon.
Ulysses
02-11-2004, 06:01 PM
A bunch of people PM'd me directly to say that they felt it was cheating but were afraid to post here in fear of retribution from the mafia. Based on this, I deleted all pattern maps I had.
However, I did give copies of all my pattern maps to Lori, jedi, and Vehn, so you can PM those folks if you want them.
I would be careful, though. Apparently the mafia controlling the poker sites is very serious about "taking care of" people they find using these maps. They've been unable to thwart them through technological means, so now they're doing things the old-fashioned way. Be careful.
acrylic48
02-11-2004, 06:19 PM
That is ridiculous.
I did everything you asked.
t_perkin
02-11-2004, 06:21 PM
You lied - you put my name in your poll.
I never voted either way.
For that I think you should be disqualified - You're def. not having my map.
Tim
Geez, you didn't tell me anything about the mafia coming in. Urgh. Now I'll have to mitigate my pattern map use.
Kate, here's the plan. Anyone can PM me for more details, but please note that jedi-bot using log9 pattern mapping can only be used on one table at a time.
Here is all you do. PM me if interested and I will give you an instant messenger ID for me.
When you are ready to play, contact me via IM. Find a table w/ two open seats. Jedi-Bot only works when it is also seated at the table. So, let me know where you're seated and Jedi-Bot will sit down there as well.
Then, just IM me what cards you are dealt every hand. Using perfect pot odds I will tell you whether you should call, raise, or fold on each street. Jedi-Bot uses very sophisticated formulas, so don't worry if some of these instructions seem very unorthodox.
Jedi-Bot is most useful when multiple players are using it at the same time, since it can give better advice by knowing more card information. So, the best way to use it is to have you and three of your friends sit down at a private table w/ Jedi-Bot. Each of you IM the card information to Jedi-Bot and Jedi-Bot will instruct you all on the perfect plays.
Also note that because poker sites are using pattern-map countermeasures, the old log8 formula fell to about 50% accuracy (and Lori's log6 formula fell from 35 to about 10% accuracy). The new log9 formula is still about 75% accurate though.
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A bunch of people PM'd me directly to say that they felt it was cheating but were afraid to post here in fear of retribution from the mafia. Based on this, I deleted all pattern maps I had.
However, I did give copies of all my pattern maps to Lori, jedi, and Vehn, so you can PM those folks if you want them.
I would be careful, though. Apparently the mafia controlling the poker sites is very serious about "taking care of" people they find using these maps. They've been unable to thwart them through technological means, so now they're doing things the old-fashioned way. Be careful.
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Ulysses
02-11-2004, 06:47 PM
WTF? How the hell did you get the source code for UlyssesBot? I did not give you that, but you are clearly ripping off UlyssesBot. F***ing thief.
Ulysses
02-11-2004, 06:49 PM
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That is ridiculous.
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I did everything you asked.
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Wow. Good thing I saw t_perkin's post in time. I have instructed the people I mentioned not to give you a copy of the pattern map. The fact that you lied in tallying the vote is clear proof that you are by nature a cheater, and as such, you are disqualified from this contest. I am very disappointed in you.
BookOfIcculus
02-11-2004, 06:57 PM
my pattern maps (log 6, log 9, log e, and even Limit of Log e) all require me to click me heals together 3 times and Say Theres no place like the river, there's no place like the river, there's no place like the river. Is that normal? Or did i forget to carry the 1 some place?
Ulysses
02-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Have you considered combining your UlyssesBot with the pattern mapping? Live the dream.
Ulysses
02-11-2004, 07:30 PM
I do not want the mafia to kill me, so I am no longer using pattern maps.
www.pokermafia.com (http://www.pokermafia.com)
ooOOooOOooOOOoOOooo
Gamblor
02-11-2004, 08:17 PM
JustPlayingSmart
02-11-2004, 08:33 PM
Unfortunately, with the recent mafia incidents, the FBI is really cracking down on the Internet poker sites. The CIA has installed Carnivore machines on all servers dealing with online poker sites (even those outside the US). Any user who uses the word "pattern" or "map" will be immediately flagged as a potential cybercriminal, and his/her ISP will be notified. After this notification, because of the PATRIOT Act and the Cyber Security Enhancement Act, all of your electronic transmissions will be stored by the ISP and forwarded to the government for whatever use they deem fit. This has reduced the market price of all pattern maps, including those relating to log 6, log 8, and log 9, significantly. Your best bet is to to www.cartographybrokers.com (http://www.cartographybrokers.com) and find a broker who will locate a potential buyer (or seller) for your pattern map (or one you wish to purchase). However, you should be warned that the FBI is aware of this site and may have sting operations set up in order to catch the creators pattern map traffickers. Hope this helps.
Even sale of the algorithm itself is being monitored intensively by the FBI, since the only known uses of the log 9 algorithm are pattern mapping and charting the conversations of dolphins. If you are planning to purchase the algorithm, you should probably do so through a university biology department (or if you are a marine biologist, you could probably get it without much trouble).
Gamblor
02-11-2004, 08:36 PM
Ulysses
02-11-2004, 08:38 PM
I was wrong.
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(or if you are a marine biologist, you could probably get it without much trouble).
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Come on, you think you're the only programmer around here? I gave you plenty of chances to foist the UlyssesBot on Kate, but didn't take the chance. That's what happens in business pal.
Of course, who knows how much longer the p@ttern m@p can hold on, with countermeasures from the poker sites getting better every day. You know the Party Poker support team is working on this. And if they find this as fast as they help out their players, I think we have a lot to worry about.
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WTF? How the hell did you get the source code for UlyssesBot? I did not give you that, but you are clearly ripping off UlyssesBot. F***ing thief.
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GrannyMae
03-02-2004, 07:41 PM
you people are NUTS.
whomever told me to look this up should be sodomized with a possum. *
* ready-dead, road-kill possum is fine thomas, don't freak
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/bird.gif
Cubswin
03-02-2004, 07:56 PM
speaking of being sodomized... can you tell us about that time with mason????
Dingo Puppet
03-02-2004, 08:07 PM
I was sitting at a table there too when a guy said they were predictable. He sat out and preceded to predict correctly which cards would come. Did it about 6 times, sometimes just naming the suit, other times name the exact card without suit, and once named the exact card and suit.
It was kind of scary, and the table broke up after that. Nobody wanted to play with him/her. He was only wrong once on a turn call, but then it came on the river which blew me away.
BookOfIcculus
03-02-2004, 08:14 PM
did you get what log he was using?
Cubswin
03-02-2004, 08:57 PM
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did you get what log he was using?
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im guessing it was the log8.... i think we have proven that this is the most accurate
BookOfIcculus
03-02-2004, 09:42 PM
Thanks
Well, I'm sure I would have been flamed had I been the one to bump this, but I'll say this again...
Best Thread Ever.
thomastem
03-03-2004, 12:01 AM
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you people are NUTS.
whomever told me to look this up should be sodomized with a possum. *
* ready-dead, road-kill possum is fine thomas, don't freak
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/_950/bird.gif
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I couldn't cover my possum's eyes before he got a glimpse of this. Through his convulsions I was able to give him a prozac and a cow chip so he is sleeping soundly.....but now I can't slow-play any hands tonight.
but now I can't slow-play any hands tonight
and Jek is being forced to sit in the corner of all the cardrooms through pure fear.
Lori
RollaJ
03-12-2004, 04:57 PM
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Sometimes I love being an Azzhole! /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Big Mo
03-12-2004, 05:32 PM
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<font color="red"> BUMP! </font> /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Sometimes I love being an Azzhole! /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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Listen little one you need to work on your figure and someday you can have a full-bodied figure like me.
jasonHoldEm
03-12-2004, 08:09 PM
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Gamblor
03-12-2004, 08:59 PM
Oh my god they can be predicted? Where can I find one of these "pattern maps"?
I'm afraid this thread can't die until Jimbo has posted in it.
Lori
GrannyMae
03-12-2004, 09:09 PM
agreed, but if ever i was tempted to switch from flat viewing, this would be why.
can't mat lock this thing?
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lorinda
03-12-2004, 09:13 PM
agreed, but if ever i was tempted to switch from flat viewing, this would be why
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Is that a typo? Surely this thread is a piece of cake in flat viewing?
I just click on the little number 33 by the side and it's all nice and easy to read.
Lori
GrannyMae
03-12-2004, 09:24 PM
default display i have set to flat, default view i have set to expanded threads.
i've shown you mine, now show me yours. i'm always looking for a better way to view, but i thought this was the best.
should i change anything?
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lorinda
03-12-2004, 09:30 PM
All I remember is that I have it set to flat and collapsed.
I get a nice little option asking me which page of this monster (1-33) I wish to view, and just click on 33 to avoid having to re-read all the posts.
(Although I still read about bobo from time to time)
Lori
GrannyMae
03-12-2004, 09:33 PM
flat and collapsed
but then i have to expand it to see who made the new post? nah, i like my way.
(as long as there are no monsters like this one)
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Cubswin
03-24-2004, 02:03 AM
sorry guys....couldnt help myself
morgant
03-24-2004, 03:05 AM
haha, bravo cubs bravo!
GrannyMae
03-24-2004, 03:07 AM
can't this FUNGUS be locked?
please???
mat, gimme that fuking key. i'll lock this damn thread so fast to keep it down, that your head will spin.
stop this insanity NOW. it kills the whole page.
http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/u/cyber.gif
Steve Giufre
03-24-2004, 09:37 AM
Guys like Neverwin, Count, Piejay have all been using this kind of info, and it has a lot to do with thier results on the net?
TylerD
03-24-2004, 10:12 AM
I would say its the responsibility of every true Zoo'er to have at least one post in this thread.
MrFroggyX
03-27-2004, 11:32 PM
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Some Zoo'ers have a few more posts than one.. I only wanted to inform you about it if you had missed it.. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Hiding
03-27-2004, 11:41 PM
my one post /images/graemlins/smile.gif
shutupndeal
03-28-2004, 09:24 PM
good one
Megan The Minx
03-28-2004, 10:18 PM
Good heavens, what on earth is this all about. I gave up reading half way through, what on earth are some of these people on?
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I can't believe I haven't done it until now.
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I would say its the responsibility of every true Zoo'er to have at least one post in this thread.
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Then my one post is...for the love of God Mat lock this thread. I am sooooo sick of scrolling through it.
Cubswin
03-29-2004, 01:32 AM
jek187
03-29-2004, 02:05 AM
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Should this thread be locked?
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How the hell are we going to get 100k views if this thread is locked? Vote No!
morgant
03-29-2004, 02:30 AM
there shouldn't even be a vote for this thread to be locked. this is the master thread, and should be available for educational, historical, and pure entertainment reasons for all future generations of zoo'ers.
you people need to learn to collapse the threads.
GrannyMae
03-29-2004, 06:18 PM
How the hell are we going to get 100k views if this thread is locked? Vote No!
then can we at least encourage people to address the topic? if the SOLE purpose of the post is forum disruption, then it is a PITA.
make them say something relevant. that should be the compromise to not locking it.
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BookOfIcculus
03-29-2004, 06:53 PM
This thread has decreased the number of IS online rigged. And I think that If it gets asked in any other forum. The Poster and subsequent samrt-ass response should be posted here. Anyone like this idea?
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Then my one post is...for the love of God Mat lock this thread. I am sooooo sick of scrolling through it.
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That's your fault for reading it.
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That's your fault for reading it.
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I suppose. And I have read the whooooole thread and still read any new posts in it so....
But it is getting to be a pain in the a$$.
Sundevils21
03-29-2004, 11:33 PM
This thread makes me laugh almost as much as that stephenpunk guy who owns a castle or whatever.
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I suppose. And I have read the whooooole thread and still read any new posts in it so....
But it is getting to be a pain in the a$$.
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Hum, so it's a lack of will-power and self-control? lol
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Hum, so it's a lack of will-power and self-control? lol
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Steven Punk
03-31-2004, 03:38 PM
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This thread makes me laugh almost as much as that stephenpunk guy who owns a castle or whatever.
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The rest of you common peasants could learn from this bright individual full of potential.
To think some of you claim that "TT" use to be more funny. Some common farmer being compared to someone of my statute.
Pot Head
03-31-2004, 03:49 PM
Way cool and bitch'in. Now I understand why anyone over 8 can be a pro poker player.
Do they have a pattern mapper for chics?
G Money
03-31-2004, 04:04 PM
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Do they have a pattern mapper for chics?
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They are selling 1 on ebay check the other post.
Steven Punk
04-01-2004, 03:49 PM
You bumbling idiots, I don't sell these damn things.
The PMs asking if I'm Buddy Holly have stopped now I get them with people wanting to purchase pattern maps. I also can't get you a job as a cook so why would you people want me as a reference.
Silly peasants.
Cubswin
04-01-2004, 04:09 PM
With a tally of 30-12, it looks like posters want this thread to stay open. I was getting a little worried because at one point during the early days of this poll it was 1-6 against keeping it open.... which got me to thinking. The people who were the first to view this poll and the first to vote were also the ones who wanted it closed. Funny innit? This thread was such an annoyance that they wanted it closed....but were so quick to read it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif It reminds me of that line from the howard stern movie were the average stern fan listened for 15 minutes while the averagre person that hated him listen for an hour (i know i messed up the exact numbers). Just my deep thought for the day.
regards
cubswin
GrannyMae
04-01-2004, 09:48 PM
but were so quick to read it
please don't assume it was based on interest with all these cases of early votes. many read the responses out of anger that it disrupts the entire forum, and they want to see what assshole bumped it. i already know because i view threads in expanded mode.
for those that tell me to switch to flat mode so i don't have to scroll through it, i say NO THANX. i have a scroll mouse and it is not a big deal at all. like all children do, WE will tire of this bump game soon, and it won't resurface for a few months, then we will go through this again. that's why it is the zoo i suppose.
i'm not going to change my preferred method of reading posts just because a fool wants to say he posted the word "bump". you guys know i'm all for total freedoms here, and i could care less about whether it gets locked or not because i have no input. however, my opinion is that this thread being perpetually bumped for the sake of bumping takes away from my personal enjoyment in the zoo.
but carry on all, i know you will.
(for those trying to make a record thread though, please understand it already is the 2+2 record, and will NEVER be a UBB forum record in our lifetimes)
The Real Don
04-05-2004, 01:34 PM
I'm not kidding I want my cut.
The WET BEAVER
04-05-2004, 03:59 PM
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Gamblor
04-05-2004, 04:09 PM
Cubswin
04-05-2004, 04:32 PM
GrannyMae
04-05-2004, 06:10 PM
hi beaver.
you are a fuking moron
however, i guess i have to congratulate you because i thought i would never change the way i PREFER to view this board.
thanks to your dumbass, disruptive post, i'm switching to flat mode. not many win in battles against Granny, so you are now on a short list.
good for you and again, congrats !!!
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