AA hand

[Saborion]

1/2. Loose passive. 10-handed.

I`m dealt A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/spade.gif in MP3.
EP3 limp, MP2 limp, I raise, CO cold-call, button cold-call, BB call, EP3 call, MP2 call.
6 to the flop.

[9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif] ~6 BB.
Checked to me, I bet, all but BB call.
5 to the turn.

9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif [9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif] 8 BB.
Checked to me, I bet, CO call, button raise, EP3 call, MP2 call, I call.
5 to the river.

Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif [9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif] 17 BB.
Checked to button that bet. It`s folded to me, what do I do?

[Trix]

Why not Raise the Turn? the 9 isnt that bad unless he have 1 and if he do, he will most likely 3bet which will make river alot easier for u...
On river u r prolly done...Since all he needs is a Q,9 or a spade...but since pot is so large and so much weird stuff happens at that limit i would prolly just call

[el_grande]

Fold the river. I see aces lose this way so many times it's not even funny.

It would be shockingly rare for the button to NOT turn over a Q or a 9.

[bunky9590]

Man that did get ugly.
Preflop fine, you raised, got called, perfect.

Flop, nothing fancy bet it out. So far so good.

Turn: Buttone raises you, I more often than not three bet him here to really see how much the 9 helped him. It makes my river play alot easier. If capped, I check call the river against typical opposition. (Very few people will cap a flush draw in that spot, nor will they cap AQ.)

You can make a case for folding to the cap, but the pot is too big and you only have to be wrong 1 in 15 or so to be mathematically incorrect. (Like that MajorKong?) Likewise on the river.

If they don't cap the turn , I bet the river.

[Saborion]

You bet the river in this hand? With the flush possibility and the boat, in case someone had the Q?

I sure am sorry I didn`t 3-bet the turn, maybe then things would`ve turned out differently. Will I ever learn this game I wonder...

No one called buttons bet on the river, but he showed us his hole cards. I suppose he was all excited. He flipped over pocket 6's.

[Trix]

3 PAIRS !!! O_o

[PocketRocketsBF]

The pot is big enough for you to call. This would be true for any position but it is doubly true for the button who will attempt more steals.

[bunky9590]

If he doesn't cap, I bet the river. Awful hard for him to call with those 6's now isn't it???

[Homer]

Turn: Buttone raises you, I more often than not three bet him here to really see how much the 9 helped him. It makes my river play alot easier. If capped, I check call the river against typical opposition. (Very few people will cap a flush draw in that spot, nor will they cap AQ.)

I don't understand why you'd three-bet the turn since you plan to ignore the information a cap gives you and call it down anyway. If you aren't confident enough to fold to a cap, then you shouldn't three-bet. You should just call and check-call the river.

-- Homer

[Ed Miller]

I think 3-betting is wrong... and part of the reason is that you cannot fold to a 4-bet. At that point, the pot is so gigantically huge, you are basically getting odds to call for your two outter alone.

[Ed Miller]

This one's easy. You call. There's only one more player between you and the bettor, and it's not particularly likely that he has you beaten, so I wouldn't raise. I certainly wouldn't fold.

BTW, folding has to be wrong, because what could the button have? Well, he's representing a nine on the turn, but he then bets into four opponents when the queen pairs on the river? He doesn't have a nine. He would likely have raised the flop with a queen, rather than waiting for the turn to raise. There is a strong chance that he's being an idiot.

Actually, I think you could make a case for raising to protect the pot if CO has a flush. He'll probably fold a flush for two bets, but overcall for one. I'll have to think about it. I think calling is probably right, though.

[Homer]

I agree that you can't fold on the river for one bet, but come on, this is 1/2, the button could easily be betting with 9's full. You've been playing 300-600 (or whatever limit you're playing now /images/graemlins/smile.gif) for too long...

-- Homer